I didn't realize Chertoff was a wall; that is, his ears still conduct the sounds that are words. ;)

Or would you rather still have the original post 8/10 rules still in place? I wouldn't.

So the generic 3oz plastic bottle sold for the purpose of travel at stores like the Container Store, that have no label are not acceptable?

You have to have a bottle that has a commercially printed label on it?

As always, thanks for the updates, Bart.

1) Does anyone find it foolish they are x-raying liquids and gels (apart from everything else, of course)? X-ray imaging is unable to discern meaningful differences among fluids. This just seems nonsensical.
2) While I applaud the departure of the stupid gate checks, I wonder if it's a good idea to publicly announce that. Note, I find no efficacy to them whatsoever, but leaving them open as an avenue of screening does have its advantages from the TSA perspective.

If you've got one 3oz. commercial bottle in there for easy size comparison.....let us know how it goes!

Who is "they?"

Is another person now dedicated to re-arranging the contents inside the bag and then reading it? Because my bag won't be neatly arranged, labels up, like they are in the posed TSA photo. Nor will the 87 people behind me.

And since the x-ray machine doesn't do "English," who's taken away from spotting terrarists' behaviors in order to read labels with 4pt font size markings?

And do I have to give them my reading glasses so they can see the print?

Gate checks have always been an option for TSA. I have seen them only VERY sporadically before 8/10 (maybe one every three months), but they did occur. I would assume that they could still take place.

- Alan

Bart at post #487 this morning: "We will no longer have a gate team to randomly inspect flights."

Question for Bart
 

Bart,
First, thank you for providing such useful information! I know it's made my travel easier and more efficient to know what to expect in advance.

Second...am I correct that I can now carry lip gloss and bottled water (bought inside security) on the plane? And also small hand cream in a 3 oz bottle? Can you confirm what others have said, that the bottles need to be printed with "3 oz" on them?

Thanks!

GG

In situations where a bottle that is larger than 3oz contains liquid it will be up to a supervisor to decide whether or not it can go. However, in the future you will be asked to declare what liquids you are transporting to the TSO, so... there's a whole slew of other (questionable) rules going into effect that I trust you'll all get a real kick out of...

Bart may have been talking about the entire TSA operation (doubtful) or he may have been talking about his one airport - SAT (which I find much more likely). ;)

Are Hawley and Chertoff really promising that we will no longer have any gate-side screenings?

This video that is linked here (apparently TSA IT thinks a video FAQ is easier to use than a text one :rolleyes: ) contains Hawley all but admitting that there will not be gate screenings.

He really struggles though to give up on his precious gate gropes, saying "we will do a number of random inspections . . . including in the gate area," "but it will not be a regular practice."

Had to bump this link up, since it answers this 3 or 4 oz. lens solution question which I was pondering myself. Apparently, 4 oz. of lens solution IS ok in your carry-on.

http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtrav...d-items.shtm#1

I can think of all kinds of ways to test that hypothesis... ;)

So it's clear that Hawley and Chertoff are not promising the elimination of gate-side screenings; they are just saying the gate-side screenings will be less frequent than last week.