NEWS: TSA Would Allow Sharp Objects on Airliners
Dec 1, 2005 | 10:09 pm
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Originally Posted by bambi47
Yeah, I know those frequent flyers. Their the ones that "didn't know that was in my bag". I see them every day.
I can honestly say I had one of those moments. I had a 2.5 inch-WIDE Swiss Army Knife that I forgot I put into my briefcase when I moved in 2003.
The difference is that TSA at IAH missed it once, and the TSA in DEN missed it twice. I checked my Tumi rollaboard with the knife on the way back home from Boston.
But I personally have never had an item confiscated.
And it doesn't change the Frequent Fliers' perception of the TSA's wholly PR purpose.
Dec 1, 2005 | 10:25 pm
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Originally Posted by bambi47
Yeah, I know those frequent flyers. Their the ones that "didn't know that was in my bag". I see them every day.
Went through the security at YVR. They looked in my carry-ons, made me turn on the digital SLR camera, etc. etc.
Once on the plane, I reached into my camera bag and came up with the knife.
Seems neither I nor the screener could find it!
Not everyone works at the airport. Many of us lead complicated and chaotic lives. To forget a pair of cuticle scissors - as my wife did last month on our way ORD - LHR - is not so uncommon even for people who travel a lot.
BFD, sez I.
Dec 1, 2005 | 10:42 pm
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Originally Posted by Spiff
The "Richard Reid" excuse is both lame and pathetic. Richard Reid could have crammed his sloppy bomb in his pants or in his butt.
That's not a valid excuse for this stupid, disgusting shoe harassment that occurs at the airport.
Comrades Mineta, Loy, Stone and now Hawley are just filthy little collaborators with the terrorist Richard Reid.
That's not a valid excuse for this stupid, disgusting shoe harassment that occurs at the airport.
Comrades Mineta, Loy, Stone and now Hawley are just filthy little collaborators with the terrorist Richard Reid.
Or should be check your butt crack too?..
Dec 2, 2005 | 12:51 am
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Originally Posted by bambi47
This was in today's Philadelphia Inquirer, page A9. Banned items intercepted by airport screeners, January 1 - Nov. 29, 2005: Lighters (banned as of April14) 8,124,525, ... Just wondering where all this stuff came from. People that don't believe their dangerous?
I am one of those "people that don't believe they're dangerous." Can you please explain to me how they became more dangerous on April 14 than they were on April 13.
Dec 2, 2005 | 12:53 am
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Originally Posted by bambi47
This was in today's Philadelphia Inquirer, page A9. Banned items intercepted by airport screeners, January 1 - Nov. 29, 2005: Lighters (banned as of April14) 8,124,525, Sharp Objects 3,041,218, Knives and blades 1,650,894 (less than 3 inches 1,599,103) (3 inches or longer 51,791), Tools, 819,450, Flammables and irritants 362,613 (not sure if they included irritating passengers), Ammunition and gunpowder 21,939, Box cutters 19,499, Clubs, bats and bludgeons 19,183. Just wondering where all this stuff came from. People that don't believe their dangerous? People that don't know the rules? (come on, its been 4 years and unless you haven't read a paper or watched television, this is a lame excuse) or people that think we should "know" their not terrorists? Or were at least a couple of them "bad guys" that wanted to harm us?
Dec 2, 2005 | 12:56 am
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Originally Posted by n5667
So we should just have no security at all?
Or should be check your butt crack too?..
Or should be check your butt crack too?..
How did you reach that conclusion?
"Those clothes are ugly."
"Well, you must hate all clothes!!!"
"That car is not road worthy."
"Why do you hate cars, man???"
"Bribery is a bad thing."
"Oh! I suppose we should just ban money then!"
You really ought to think these things through before you make such wild conclusions.
Dec 2, 2005 | 1:33 am
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Originally Posted by bambi47
Again, I was being sarcastic. I guess I'm not as funny as I thought. No more jokes. And I guess, no pat down either Teacher49?
Dec 2, 2005 | 6:43 am
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Originally Posted by bambi47
This was in today's Philadelphia Inquirer, page A9. Banned items intercepted by airport screeners, January 1 - Nov. 29, 2005: Lighters (banned as of April14) 8,124,525, Sharp Objects 3,041,218, Knives and blades 1,650,894 (less than 3 inches 1,599,103) (3 inches or longer 51,791), Tools, 819,450, Flammables and irritants 362,613 (not sure if they included irritating passengers), Ammunition and gunpowder 21,939, Box cutters 19,499, Clubs, bats and bludgeons 19,183. Just wondering where all this stuff came from. People that don't believe their dangerous? People that don't know the rules? (come on, its been 4 years and unless you haven't read a paper or watched television, this is a lame excuse) or people that think we should "know" their not terrorists? Or were at least a couple of them "bad guys" that wanted to harm us?
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Dec 2, 2005 | 6:48 am
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Opposition
So now there is formal opposition to the changes from flight attendants, 9/11 victim families and some other interest group. Of course, the fact that the head of security for the pilots association said pointy objects were irrelevant, even before 9/11, doesn't seem to matter to them.
Dec 2, 2005 | 6:48 am
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Write your Congresscritters!
New York Times:
Reps. Ed Markey, D-Mass., and Joseph Crowley, D-N.Y., said Thursday they intend to introduce a bill to preserve the current prohibition on sharp scissors, tools and knives in airliner cabins.
''The Bush administration proposal is just asking the next Mohamed Atta to move from box cutters to scissors as the weapon that's used in the passenger cabin of planes,'' Markey said.
But Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, a member of the Senate Commerce Committee's aviation panel, objected to the policy shift. In a letter to Hawley, she wrote that the change ''could undermine the progress we have made in securing our skies since the 9/11 attacks. Security demands vigilance; we cannot become complacent.''
''The Bush administration proposal is just asking the next Mohamed Atta to move from box cutters to scissors as the weapon that's used in the passenger cabin of planes,'' Markey said.
But Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, a member of the Senate Commerce Committee's aviation panel, objected to the policy shift. In a letter to Hawley, she wrote that the change ''could undermine the progress we have made in securing our skies since the 9/11 attacks. Security demands vigilance; we cannot become complacent.''
Dec 2, 2005 | 7:40 am
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Who can follow TSA's justification for what they decide to do???
So, now you can bring scissors and small knives on the plane, but a lighter is still prohibited. Makes no sense.
TSA must be in the mood for some re-vamping though. A colleague of mine flew into Watertown NY (tiny little airport; I guess they actually close for the night)this past week. All the passengers got off, and then the ones going to the other two stops, Messena and Ogdenburg, just got back on the plane when they were ready to go. No security screening at all. My colleague found it slightly bizarre since it is a commercial flight (US Air Exp). He thought maybe the airport had gone private or something along those lines.
So, now you can bring scissors and small knives on the plane, but a lighter is still prohibited. Makes no sense.
TSA must be in the mood for some re-vamping though. A colleague of mine flew into Watertown NY (tiny little airport; I guess they actually close for the night)this past week. All the passengers got off, and then the ones going to the other two stops, Messena and Ogdenburg, just got back on the plane when they were ready to go. No security screening at all. My colleague found it slightly bizarre since it is a commercial flight (US Air Exp). He thought maybe the airport had gone private or something along those lines.