Pressure does work
Nov 29, 2004 | 7:05 pm
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Pressure does work
Article from the Washington Post, October of this year:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...-2004Oct6.html
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To give you an idea:
"People soon will be able to carry guns and other dangerous weapons onto the grounds and parking lots of Reagan National and Dulles International airports, after officials yesterday eased what they said were overly restrictive rules.
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The action comes after pressure from an increasingly high-profile Virginia gun rights group whose members have taken to wearing firearms on their hips in public places to make their case.
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If we speak out about abuses at security, we can get things changed.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...-2004Oct6.html
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To give you an idea:
"People soon will be able to carry guns and other dangerous weapons onto the grounds and parking lots of Reagan National and Dulles International airports, after officials yesterday eased what they said were overly restrictive rules.
...
The action comes after pressure from an increasingly high-profile Virginia gun rights group whose members have taken to wearing firearms on their hips in public places to make their case.
..."
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If we speak out about abuses at security, we can get things changed.
Scary
Nov 30, 2004 | 6:37 am
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Originally Posted by prof1950
This is downright SCARY!! I live in VA and I do not want anyone to be able to carry weapons ANYWHERE and certainly NOT at airports, or bars, churches,restaurants, my house,etc
Everywhere else (except specific locations -- like churches, bars and secure areas of the airport) are exempt from the constitutional rights of responsible citizens.
I think the point of this post was on government aviation bodies bending under organized pressure (VCDL) and not really about guns in the "unsecured" areas of airports in a state where the second ammendment otherwise still prevails.
Nov 30, 2004 | 6:39 am
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Originally Posted by eyecue
There are some states that have anti-brandishing laws.
And those with carry permits in Virginia go through background checks more rigirous than the security checks done on most of TSA's staff.
Nov 30, 2004 | 7:30 am
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Originally Posted by prof1950
This is downright SCARY!! I live in VA and I do not want anyone to be able to carry weapons ANYWHERE and certainly NOT at airports, or bars, churches,restaurants, my house,etc
Nov 30, 2004 | 1:05 pm
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Before yesterday's action, the authority barred anyone from carrying what it defined as dangerous weapons -- including firearms, knives with blades longer than four inches, bows and arrows and even sandbags -- from all airport property. That covered parking garages, access roads and several highways near Dulles, including parts of the Dulles Toll Road, Route 28 and the Dulles Greenway.
Motorists with weapons in their cars could be arrested if they drove on those roads, even if they had no intention of going to the airport.
Motorists with weapons in their cars could be arrested if they drove on those roads, even if they had no intention of going to the airport.
Because I happen to live in that area, I'm prety familiar with the issue. They did the common-sense thing.
Nov 30, 2004 | 2:00 pm
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Originally Posted by prof1950
This is downright SCARY!! I live in VA and I do not want anyone to be able to carry weapons ANYWHERE...
Amendment II
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
I agree with the OP. Continued pressure will bring change. Keep writing to Congress, talking to friends, etc.
Last edited by HUB Flyer; Nov 30, 2004 at 2:06 pm Reason: Add sarcastic smilie which I assumed was clear
Nov 30, 2004 | 2:03 pm
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Originally Posted by HUB Flyer
If you think that's scary have you seen this?
Amendment II
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
I agree with the OP. Continued pressure will bring change. Keep writing to Congress, talking to friends, etc.
Amendment II
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
I agree with the OP. Continued pressure will bring change. Keep writing to Congress, talking to friends, etc.
Nov 30, 2004 | 2:28 pm
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Originally Posted by whirledtraveler
How's the steakknife ban going? A person with intent and a steakknife is far more dangerous than a person with no intent and a gun.
Nov 30, 2004 | 3:03 pm
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Originally Posted by Doppy
But is a person with a gun and intent more dangerous than a person with a steak knife?
A person with intent to do harm with a gun will bring that gun onto airport (or other) property regardless the law. A person armed to protect oneself can now not be maliciously prosecuted for doing so on "safe" airport property.
Here is the ruling of the judge on this earlier this year.
http://www.vcdl.org/new/MWAA_Ruling.pdf