After re-reading this one again, I would submit to the moderator that this kind of post needs to be removed. I don't think flyertalk as an org. that has had alot of work put into it even remotely wants to consider the chance that info of this nature could be used in a inappropriate manner.

oops meant to quote the post above. but you get the idea. Sorry Scott I wasnt referring to your post.

Reread what I wrote. I have never called frequent flyers stupid. I happen to be one when I am not working. But giving out SPECIFIC information about how it interpret a airline computer screen that just happens to be unmanned is plain stupid.

Oh, yeah I am asserting. I believe your post is over the top.. what now degrade down into name calling? :p

It's not about the "bad guys", it's about the general public that didn't know this. People come to Flyertalk to learn stuff, and before you know it we'll have bunches of amateurs showing up at the desk looking at screens. One ignorant frequent flier outing the marshal is bad, having half the plane do that is just pathetic.

Once again, if you don't like the system don't bash the marshal, take it higher up and voice your disapprovement there. These men and women are doing nothing more than their job, and I for one am mighty happy they are there. ^ ^

I agree completely. My 10-year-old spots air marshals without any difficulty. Anyone who believes that terrrorists are reading FlyerTalk to get ideas on how to spot air marshals needs to have his head examined. That is simply preposterous.

If I announce to the world that the sun rises in the East, am I also giving away government secrets?

Bruce

While I appreciate the sentiment, this statement is simply not logical. Nazi concentration camp guards were also "doing their jobs." That defense did not help them at post-war criminal trials. I am not suggesting for one second that air marshals are comparable to Nazi war criminals. I am merely appealing for some logic in your argument. Telling us that air marshals are just doing their job does not justify what they do. This should be obvious to you -- as it is to most of us.

Bruce

Then you should leave that DISGUSTING arguement out of this.

What a sickening post.

These men and women applied for a job THEY beleive will help the saftey on the nations planes, to even have the slightest mention of the word "Nazi" in ANY post on them completely disqualifies you from ANY debate on the matter.

Nazi concentration camp guards KNEW exactly what they were doing when they gassed millions of Jews, do you honestly think the FAM heads to work in the morning thinking what a great day he'll have screwing the passengers on his or her flight, or how much he hopes to harm them? Do you REALLY think that?

No wonder the Air Marshals are so sick of this place, and no wonder I usually never bothered to post here. Sickening, disgusting and downright ignorant, that is what it is.

That is the last I'll say on the matter, I'm out of here as most don't seem to have the common courtesy or manners to discuss the matter.

And this, my friends, is a thread begging to be locked and sent to shameless.

I love how people like to do the "1 + 1 = 3" game. Come on. We are not talking about adults, kids, or whomever playing guessing games based upon clothing, seats, ect.

Once again, I was referring to giving out SPECIFIC info that maybe not EVERYONE had figured out yet.

Just because the FAM service ignores boarding, dress, and other procedures that make FAMS observable, doesnt mean we should all throw our hands in the air and just advertise every and all, new and improved way to do things.

I am glad you can live in a world where things are "preposterous". I wish I could.

I understand where you are coming from Sam. The thing is, the bad guys use any and all resources to figure things out.

Ya know, if your not suggesting it, than you shouldnt have said it, referenced it, ect.

Many frequent flyers, especially those who are the frequent, frequent flyers work in our countries financial systems. We all know there have been many scandals involving CEO's and others stealing from the average stockholder/retirement fund holder/citizen. The Nazi's stole alot from people as well. So based upon your logic we can apply the same thing to frequent flyers who are in the financial business. The financial business steals alot from average americans. So they are like Nazi's, they should know better, and knew exactly what they were doing.

That paragraph is ridiculous. And so was your post.

And again, as has been covered many times on this thread, FAMS don't have to JUSTIFY what they do. They applied for a job that the government created. The only JUSTIFICATION a FAM needs to give is if he or she is accused of improper behavior, violating the law, ect. If they are NOT JUSTIFIED then they need to be fired.

And something that I have been wanting to address for a long while while reading the posts on here. You referenced "most of us" in your last sentence. From the limited time I have looked at this website, I have concluded that there are most likely hundreds if not several thousand frequent flyers who use this website. But yet when it comes to the hardcore "bashing" that this thread is titled, how come we only see the same few names everytime.

I agree its time to end it. Instead of evolving up, it went the other way and now have hit the bottom with Nazi's being the examples we use.

How's that saying go? Better to let them think you are rather than opening your mouth and removing all doubt?

Very witty. And no, I have no doubt about you.

Your posts today, IMO, reflect some very real anger management issues. Perhaps the government offers an EAP that you could utilize?

Your attack on Bruce was uncalled for, and reflects your lack of understanding of the point he was making.

Have a nice flight, and watch out for all those terrorists from whom you believe you are protecting us.