Non Active Sky Marshall clears first AGAIN
Jun 19, 2005 | 4:32 am
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Sorry if this was already said (didn't feel like reading through ALL the pages)... but with the Marshalls flying all day a few days a week, is it that bad to give them comfortable seats? Also, F seat are the ones closest to the cockpit... I don't know about you, but I would want the pax with the gun (active or not) guarding the door.
Jun 19, 2005 | 9:48 am
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Originally Posted by BF263533
Can non-active sky marshals drink on liquor a flight while they are carrying a gun?
Last edited by bbc1969; Jun 19, 2005 at 9:50 am
Jun 19, 2005 | 10:19 am
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Originally Posted by IceTrojan
I don't know about you, but I would want the pax with the gun (active or not) guarding the door.
Since one couldn't enter the cockpit with a battering ram nowadays, I'm not too sure we need anyone guarding the door.
I see the FAM's function as monitoring the pax and, as has been said ad infinitum, they could monitor the pax better from the rear of the plane IMO.
Jun 19, 2005 | 10:36 am
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Originally Posted by bbc1969
No, liquor cannot be served. But I am waiting for someone on here to now respond that they watched a FAM or LEO drink like a fish.
The FAs may provide partial assistance in the potential identification of FAMs since they don't generally offer FAMs in first class alcohol on flights. Instead of having their hands ready to pour the wine, the bottle and/or hands often go elsewhere on the cart. Amusing or not?
Jun 19, 2005 | 12:47 pm
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
FAMs on plane, active or not, don't readily appear to drink alcohol on the planes I've been on. Their drinking habits off the plane are not my concern except under certain circumstances, including where it affects their performance on the plane.
I don't recall anything in the question about "off-the-plane" habits. I almost don't want to ask, but oh well, I will anyway. What are you implying by off the "plane" habits? Got some stories you want to tell?
Jun 19, 2005 | 1:41 pm
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Originally Posted by bbc1969
I don't recall anything in the question about "off-the-plane" habits. I almost don't want to ask, but oh well, I will anyway. What are you implying by off the "plane" habits? Got some stories you want to tell?
Re 2nd question: No.
Jun 19, 2005 | 1:57 pm
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Originally Posted by BF263533
Can non-active sky marshals drink on liquor a flight while they are carrying a gun?
Jun 19, 2005 | 2:00 pm
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Originally Posted by Cholula
Since one couldn't enter the cockpit with a battering ram nowadays, I'm not too sure we need anyone guarding the door.
Jun 19, 2005 | 3:08 pm
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Originally Posted by copwriter
I've kicked open much heavier doors with only my foot. The reinforced flight deck doors might slow someone down more than the previous lavatory-grade doors would, but don't get any false notions that they are impenetrable.
I don't know if there's an FAA standard for the reinforced cockpit doors but the new ones on DL's aircraft would take a bit more than a well placed foot IMO.
The doors are open when the plane is at the gate and they secure them to the lav door on certain aircraft types.
if you have to use the lav, you need to swing the cockpit door with the lav door. You can feel the weight of the door and it's gotta go over a hundred pounds. Plus it appears to be over an inch thick and made out of some lead-like substance. And there's a 1" lip that overlaps the frame.
I don't want to meet anybody in a dark alley who's capable of kicking one of these doors down.
Jun 19, 2005 | 4:30 pm
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The FD doors open out towards the cabin and the reinforced door and frame would make kicking it into the FD a very very difficult endeavor. You would need to kick it through the frame...I would pay to see anyone trying that successfully in a test. Passengers and crew would have plenty of time to act and restrain the offender or just club him over the head with a fire extinguisher.
I am very confident the doors will protect the FD...and if we are to have FAMs onboard, they are there to monitor the passengers, which is best done from either the rear, or at different locations throughout the cabin - not sitting in FC.
I am very confident the doors will protect the FD...and if we are to have FAMs onboard, they are there to monitor the passengers, which is best done from either the rear, or at different locations throughout the cabin - not sitting in FC.
Jun 19, 2005 | 6:03 pm
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
Re 1st question: What do you think I am implying?
Re 2nd question: No.
Re 2nd question: No.