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iluv2fly Jun 8, 2004 6:37 pm


Originally Posted by MajorPaine
Just shut up and take your shoes off. Guess what you actually get through the checkpoint faster and the people behind you do too.

After twenty-some posts, I can see you are going to be very popular here. I suggest you learn some manners.

MajorPaine Jun 8, 2004 6:54 pm


Originally Posted by iluv2fly
After twenty-some posts, I can see you are going to be very popular here. I suggest you learn some manners.

Manners? Appearently no one else here has any so why should I.

TakeScissorsAway Jun 9, 2004 4:27 am


Originally Posted by MajorPaine
Manners? Appearently no one else here has any so why should I.

:D

ballen0420 Jun 9, 2004 6:07 pm

what is the big deal
 
OK here we go with the shoes thing again, why are you all crying so much about the shoes. Just take them off if the screener says to. Don't throw a fit. It takes less time to take them off and put them back on than it does to argue. Obviously those that do not want to take their shoes off and cause a scene at the airport have some sort of self esteem problem and have to draw attention to themselves. For these people, the button idea mentioned in a previous posting sounds pretty good.

I have traveled on 16 different flights in the last two months and at every checkpoint most people take their shoes off, those that do not and are asked to then make some sort of snide comment and do not take them off go through secondary screening, it is SOP and should be. OK I guess you want to know what airports these were ok here you go, SDF, LGA, JFK, ORD, SMF, DFW, SAT, IND... and just in case you want the rest of the airport I have traveled to in the past that this was the case here you go. TPA, EYW, MIA, FLL, PBI, MCO, AUS, SEA, SFO, PHF, OWB, EVV, MTH, BNA, LIT, MDW, MSP, ICT, PNC, LAS, RNO, SJC, ATL, CVG.

Spiff Jun 9, 2004 9:03 pm


Originally Posted by ballen0420
OK here we go with the shoes thing again, why are you all crying so much about the shoes. Just take them off if the screener says to. Don't throw a fit. It takes less time to take them off and put them back on than it does to argue. Obviously those that do not want to take their shoes off and cause a scene at the airport have some sort of self esteem problem and have to draw attention to themselves. For these people, the button idea mentioned in a previous posting sounds pretty good.

Screw that.

It's wrong to strip search people who want to fly. Maybe you like it but many of us are unwilling to participate in these sicko shoecapades that add ZERO to security.

All FSDs who play the Shoe Carnival are most cordially welcome to go straight to hell. Maybe they and Mineta, Loy, and Stone get together once a month to review the security tapes at these sicko FSDs' airports and have themselves a little circle jerk?

TakeScissorsAway Jun 9, 2004 9:10 pm


Originally Posted by Spiff
Screw that.

It's wrong to strip search people who want to fly. Maybe you like it but many of us are unwilling to participate in these sicko shoecapades that add ZERO to security.

All FSDs who play the Shoe Carnival are most cordially welcome to go straight to hell. Maybe they and Minetta, Loy, and Stone get together once a month to review the security tapes at these sicko FSD's airports and have themselves a little circle jerk?

Wait 'til you go thru with a camcorder. New SOP out 2day gang.

ClueByFour Jun 10, 2004 10:58 am


Originally Posted by MajorPaine
Manners? Appearently no one else here has any so why should I.

Uhh, lest you end up banned.

Oops. :eek:

txscreen Jun 10, 2004 6:05 pm


Originally Posted by Spiff
Screw that.

It's wrong to strip search people who want to fly. Maybe you like it but many of us are unwilling to participate in these sicko shoecapades that add ZERO to security.

All FSDs who play the Shoe Carnival are most cordially welcome to go straight to hell. Maybe they and Mineta, Loy, and Stone get together once a month to review the security tapes at these sicko FSDs' airports and have themselves a little circle jerk?


Taking off your shoes is a long way off from a strip search. I previously was employed where we required strip searches, TSA does not come close.

As far as going to hell, some FSDs might. Why dont you go there and wait for them?

Spiff Jun 10, 2004 8:07 pm


Originally Posted by txscreen
Taking off your shoes is a long way off from a strip search. I previously was employed where we required strip searches, TSA does not come close.

As far as going to hell, some FSDs might. Why dont you go there and wait for them?

I don't give a rat's ... where you used to work, Sweetie. Wherever it was, it certainly didn't involve working with the free public. If you're not up for dealing with the free traveling public, why not go back to that happy place where you may have felt more at home.

Anytime a member of the free public is forced to doff an article of clothing, it's a strip search whether you want to hear it or not.

CameraGuy Jun 10, 2004 8:15 pm

I have a funny feeling that we were highlighted on another one of those TSAhole web sites.

I got a message for all of you whining crybaby screeners:

You don't like our opinion of you and your joke of an agency, then get off of workfare and get a REAL job.

JeremyZ Jun 10, 2004 8:18 pm


Originally Posted by Spiff

[snip]

Anytime a member of the free public is forced to doff an article of clothing, it's a strip search whether you want to hear it or not.

Please take your argument to its logical conclusion and picket public pools.

Thank you.

JeremyZ Jun 10, 2004 8:18 pm


Originally Posted by CameraGuy
I have a funny feeling that we were highlighted on another one of those TSAhole web sites.

I got a message for all of you whining crybaby screeners:

You don't like our opinion of you and your joke of an agency, then get off of workfare and get a REAL job.

There is no way that this is appropriate.

GradGirl Jun 10, 2004 8:31 pm


Originally Posted by JeremyZ
Please take your argument to its logical conclusion and picket public pools.

Thank you.

I totally missed your point, JeremyZ. Are you saying that public pools have rules about what you're allowed to wear in them? And that government agents stand at public pools ordering us to disrobe and feeling parts of our bodies through our clothes? I had my breasts touched as part of this charade earlier today, and I am angry. Angry, angry, angry. Government agents get to molest me on a regular basis, and you're comparing that to a trip to a pool.

Invasive searches involving clothing removal might be acceptable for prison inmates, but not for members of the general public suspected of no crime.

Spiff Jun 10, 2004 8:36 pm


Originally Posted by JeremyZ
Please take your argument to its logical conclusion and picket public pools.

Thank you.

Do your own picketing. I have my argument with airports, not pools.

Thank you.

Spiff Jun 10, 2004 8:38 pm


Originally Posted by JeremyZ
There is no way that this is appropriate.

Why not?

The TSA is Workfare. It is the creation of unnecessary government jobs.

We might as well hire people to dig ditches and hire others to fill them.


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