SDF_Travler,

Always a pleasure to talk to you.

I agree with your above post, it is apalling with how bad the inconsistence among airports is. The fact that nothing seems to be done about it is pretty pathetic also. I would feel really bad for all those screeners there trying to pull from different airports to screen at another because they have to change everything they might have known, which isn't right.

We've had screeners transfer into my airport and the basics at each airport are the same, thankfully. But the shoe policy different, the film policy is different (There were airports that only took certian speeds of film around the xray), and just general routine. I've read the newer SOP's and feel there should be no problem at all on how to interpt it, it's a no brainer. But airports still seem to have issues.

I'm honestly appalled with TSA as a whole as far as procedures and treatment from management. I'm leaving, thankfully. But I'll admit I hate the posts about screeners and direct flames against them. Some seem anal I understand that. But like the post from Gladgirl about ABQ screeners, I agree with it the screener should have known better but we've had a Lead and Supervisor jump on screeners on xray because they felt that bag should have been rerun on it's side. Can you believe we have a Supervisor who proably never really runs a xray telling a screener how to do their xray? Some screeners are anal but some have had a Lead and Supervisor who jumps on them for nothing and finally you just have enough and you do exaclty what they say every time.

TSA = Soviet Politburo
 

Face it, folks, the TSA is completely ineffective. As I asserted in another thread, I compared the TSA (leadership down to individual screeners) to the old Soviet Politburo.

As we learned in War College, the primary purpose of the Politburo was to perpetuate the Politburo. By direct analogy, the primary purpose of the TSA is to perpetuate the TSA. If the TSA ever had a real mission (certainly debatable) they lost sight of it long ago.

Have no fear -- On January 20, 2005, at 1200 hours EST, there will be a peaceful transfer of power in the United States of America from an appointed government to an elected one.

Oh please
 

I agree with 99% of what I've seen you post, but this last comment is just too much for me. If you really think that Kerry and co. will do anything to downsize/dismantle the TSA, or even reign them in, you are dreaming. Democrats in power will only lead to a larger TSA with more funding to hire more screeners to harass more travellers.

Not that I'm a Bush supporter either, for the record, because he allowed all this BS to happen on his watch. I do, however, believe in smaller government. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said of Mr. Kerry and the Democrats (and perhaps of Mr. Bush either).

Get a brain. :rolleyes:

My statements only pertain to RDU. As stated, I can't speak for other airports and what they do or don't do. At RDU we go by SOP when it comes to the shoe issue.

Next time you step up to the walk thru, and a screener says your shoes are required to be removed, ask them what SOP they are going by.

Blah, blah, blah :rolleyes:

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

The TSA was forced upon us by Comrades Daschle and Gephardt. In the post 9/11 hysteria, they saw a golden opportunity to add 100,000 more hacks to workfare. The Republicans wanted stronger oversight of the private screeners. Daschle and Gephardt threatened to paint the Republicans as being soft on terrorism if they did not go along with the TSA workfare program. This is fact.

Remind me again, what party do Comrades Daschle and Gephardt belong to?

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Oh boy.........here we go

oh please
 

Please......you want us to believe that a Repub controled Congress and White House were "threatened" by the Dems and forced to create the TSA???
Facts are things everyone agrees are true. I would assume that you would have trouble even finding people on the right who agree with your statement. You should back up such a definitive statement with some proof. Perhaps an article or two (and the American Spectator does not count) would help.
The Repubs have put forward any and every piece of legislation they have wanted these past four years including partial birth abortion with little opposition. While your premise may be correct in terms of the Dems wanting to have more gov't programs in general, you have no one to blame for this one except W. As they say, there is plenty of blame to go around on this one.
On a good note, I have heard some grublings lately from certain Repubs that they do not like the TSA and want it changed. They seem to be in the minority of their party though.

A: It's not good manners to ADD to an quote. What I stated is FACT. You added an OPINION to a quote of my words.

b: Comrade Daschle uttered the now famous "You cannot professionalize until you federalize" statement when he threatened to block any legislation that did not include a new workfare agency. This is FACT. The Republicans did not, nor do they currently have a fillibuster proof margin in the Senate. Thus, they are forced to deal with Comrade Daschle and his phony games.

I didnt add anything to your quote.
 

That was a meta tag that didn't copy well. Nothing added to your quote by me.

The quote may be fact, but your statement still is opinion. They are not forced to deal with anyone. They can pass whatever bill they feel like and W will sign it into law. If they didn't like the bill they didn't have to vote for it, simple as that.

Again, FACT not opinion.

Also, if my memory serves me correctly, Comrade Daschel was Senate Majority leader at the time, due to Jim Jeffords doing a Kerryesque flip-flop.

Daschle threatened to hold up any legislation that did not include this useless agency. That is again, FACT. The Republicans were powerless to pass the legislation they wanted, which was more powerful government oversight of private screeners. In the post-9/11 hysteria, failure to pass a "Security" related bill would have been suicide come November of 2002.

If the Republicans had all of this "Power" that you claim they have, then how has Comrade Daschle held up many of President Bush's judical appointments? It's called a fillibuster.

Maybe we need to stay a little more on the topic.

I frequently fly out of PBI and I refuse to take off my sneakers, due to medical reasons. They then automatically secondarily screen me since PBI has the "all shoes off" policy. I don't set off the metal detector and thus sometimes I am only have my shoes swabbed and other times they wand and pat me down. When I see the latter is coming, I automatically send the screener back to change gloves and point out that I need to protect myself the same way as they need to protect themselves. Since the individual screener does not like losing their authority, I am sometimes told to "change seats" inthe screening area. I then refuse to do so for medical reasons and breeze through the remainder of the process. It is a ridiculous situation and many innocent people are harassed unnecessarily. Since I am somewhat "well known and recognized" by a number of the TSA at PBI, I laugh to myself how some TSA screeners are hard working and try to do what is correct and others find it enjoyable work since they need to feel powerful and in charge. TRULY pathetic!

That, IMO, would be a poor assumption.

Careful.........90% of the FF's on this board resemble that remark ;)

Just shut up and take your shoes off. Guess what you actually get through the checkpoint faster and the people behind you do too.