Interview with terminated screening manager
Jun 5, 2003 | 7:43 pm
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Interview with terminated screening manager
http://www.tsascreener.com/Face_Place.asp
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Ben Franklin
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"> I have never seen a more disorganized, unprofessional, untrained, undisciplined, or mismanaged work force, at the management level, in my 35 years of association with the United States Government. Even today, as we speak, the arrogance of this agency, refusing to speak or answer letters to our United States Senators and Congressman, in that -- individually and collectively as a whole -- they are being ignored by TSA! To refuse to answer hundreds of complaints by their current work force, and refuse to respond to thousands of EEOC complaints and Civil Rights complaints, citing National Security, as one reason to not respond to these issues reminds me of a tactic that I read in a book while I was enrolled as a correspondence student in the United States Army Command & General Staff College, that corresponded to a similar tactic used by a government sponsored agency in Germany in 1939, to deny their population, and a select minority their basic human and civil rights under law. </font>
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Ben Franklin
Jun 6, 2003 | 5:25 pm
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The comparison to Germany 1939 is scary considering Ashcroft is now wanting to expand "Patroit Act" powers even further to include "indefinate detention" of individuals suspected of being involved with terrorism.
It's well known history does repeat itself and I wouldn't be surprised to see the definition or scope of terrorism to become wider. If another terrorist act were to occur involving aviation (or with anything anywhere in the US for that matter), you can bet (scared & misguided) people would be willing to give up more civil liberties in the name of security.
As far as the scope of terrorism, it has recently been expanded by the (conservative) administration (AG) to include actions of (liberal) animal rights groups. Will Ashcroft want them detained indefinately without trial? What will be next? Passengers who refuse to remove their shoes labeled as potential terrorists? While this may seem far fetched right now to some of you, it could become reality a few years from now.
I'm aware what I am saying is highly controversial; I do apologize if this comes across as off-topic, but The Patriot Act does involve security and was created in the aftermath of 9/11/01. On 9/10/01 no one would ever of though they would be removing shoes, leaving luggage unlocked for explosive detection, and going through anal-probe like harassment (er, security) to board an aircraft a couple years later in the United States.. "The Land of the Free & The Home of the Brave".
It's becoming quite spooky that things happening in this country have a striking resemblence to Germany in past history. Many other things such as CAPPS II, Total Information Awareness, never-ending wars such as the "war on terrorism" seem quite Orwellian and spooky as well.
Who's really winning this war on terrorism?
Best,
SDF_Traveler
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Ben Franklin
It's well known history does repeat itself and I wouldn't be surprised to see the definition or scope of terrorism to become wider. If another terrorist act were to occur involving aviation (or with anything anywhere in the US for that matter), you can bet (scared & misguided) people would be willing to give up more civil liberties in the name of security.
As far as the scope of terrorism, it has recently been expanded by the (conservative) administration (AG) to include actions of (liberal) animal rights groups. Will Ashcroft want them detained indefinately without trial? What will be next? Passengers who refuse to remove their shoes labeled as potential terrorists? While this may seem far fetched right now to some of you, it could become reality a few years from now.
I'm aware what I am saying is highly controversial; I do apologize if this comes across as off-topic, but The Patriot Act does involve security and was created in the aftermath of 9/11/01. On 9/10/01 no one would ever of though they would be removing shoes, leaving luggage unlocked for explosive detection, and going through anal-probe like harassment (er, security) to board an aircraft a couple years later in the United States.. "The Land of the Free & The Home of the Brave".
It's becoming quite spooky that things happening in this country have a striking resemblence to Germany in past history. Many other things such as CAPPS II, Total Information Awareness, never-ending wars such as the "war on terrorism" seem quite Orwellian and spooky as well.
Who's really winning this war on terrorism?
Best,
SDF_Traveler
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Ben Franklin
Jun 6, 2003 | 6:51 pm
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OT, what is also interesting are the multiple grammer errors on the website. For example:
"Mike, once again, thanks for speaking with us.
Do you have any partying thoughts? "
"Mike, once again, thanks for speaking with us.
Do you have any partying thoughts? "
Jun 6, 2003 | 9:43 pm
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This is why the stuff under the headings "2, 4, and 5" in the Bill of Rights are the most important thing this country has ever put to paper.
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Jun 6, 2003 | 11:25 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by SDF_Traveler:
It's becoming quite spooky that things happening in this country have a striking resemblence to Germany in past history. Many other things such as CAPPS II, Total Information Awareness, never-ending wars such as the "war on terrorism" seem quite Orwellian and spooky as well.
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It's becoming quite spooky that things happening in this country have a striking resemblence to Germany in past history. Many other things such as CAPPS II, Total Information Awareness, never-ending wars such as the "war on terrorism" seem quite Orwellian and spooky as well.
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http://www.thememoryhole.org/policestate/iao-logo.htm
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Ben Franklin
Jun 10, 2003 | 8:47 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by kappa:
SeeYa, You may know grammar; but you should check on your spelling skills!
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SeeYa, You may know grammar; but you should check on your spelling skills!
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Darn those keyboard gremlins.
Jun 10, 2003 | 9:22 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by SeeYa:
oops, you are absolutely correct!
Darn those keyboard gremlins.</font>
oops, you are absolutely correct!
Darn those keyboard gremlins.
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Jun 11, 2003 | 5:42 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by The Unknown Screener:
Yeah, nothing worse than to belittle someone and make the same mistake they did. Ya gotta hate it when that happens.
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Yeah, nothing worse than to belittle someone and make the same mistake they did. Ya gotta hate it when that happens.
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My spelling may not be up to par, but I got my point across.
The grammar error I pointed out completely changed the context of the question asked.
Even you cannot dispute that?
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Jun 13, 2003 | 3:44 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by SeeYa:
belittle? Who did I belittle? Pointing out grammar errors in an otherwise glossy website is considered belittling?
My spelling may not be up to par, but I got my point across.
The grammar error I pointed out completely changed the context of the question asked.
Even you cannot dispute that?
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belittle? Who did I belittle? Pointing out grammar errors in an otherwise glossy website is considered belittling?
My spelling may not be up to par, but I got my point across.
The grammar error I pointed out completely changed the context of the question asked.
Even you cannot dispute that?
[This message has been edited by SeeYa (edited 06-11-2003).]</font>
Jun 13, 2003 | 10:04 am
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Now then, back to the topic ... I wonder where the party was???
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Ben Franklin