TSA PreCheck To Be Obsolete?
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Leaving shoes on for screening doesn't sit well with everyone.
Senate Democrat demands that TSA lift its "shoes-on" policy, calling it a "reckless" safety risk
Senate Democrat demands that TSA lift its "shoes-on" policy, calling it a "reckless" safety risk
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Leaving shoes on for screening doesn't sit well with everyone.
Senate Democrat demands that TSA lift its "shoes-on" policy, calling it a "reckless" safety risk
Senate Democrat demands that TSA lift its "shoes-on" policy, calling it a "reckless" safety risk
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I believe that the implementation of REAL ID can be used to justify the shoes-off policy in a response given the timing of each action, regardless of what the OIG says. Corrective action is not necessary IMO; DHS can reply that they disagree and leave the matter unresolved/open on the OIG side. Not everything the OIG says needs to be taken as gospel, just responded to.
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Touchless pre-check is the new Clear. Not enough people signed up to make the lines long . . . and your ID is your face.
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From July 2023: FlyerTalk Forums - View Single Post - United has a stake in CLEAR, discounts for UA elites & MP CC (only GS free)
And then in November 2023: United app offering TSA Precheck Touchless ID (LAX, ORD, ...) - FlyerTalk Forums
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Judging solely by what I have seen at our airport, Pre is alive and well. They run a localized sign up/interview in one of the offices here from time to time. Over the last 3 weeks, every single time I have walked past that office, it has been lined up, seats nearby full of people filling out paperwork, etc. Understandably, that probably translates to a few hundred at the most, but the Pre program is still pulling people in. I still say that if you have International travel in your mix, Global Entry is the better buy for the money.
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Can they allow international travelers to not go through security again? Or select trusted countries like Japan, S. Korea, Taiwan, etc.? It adds needless time and effort for major airports to double check people. Same goes with luggage, make them interline all the way through like before.
As for the Senate Dem protest, easy to say with escorts. Make all Congressmen take their shoes off then.
As for the Senate Dem protest, easy to say with escorts. Make all Congressmen take their shoes off then.
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Can they allow international travelers to not go through security again? Or select trusted countries like Japan, S. Korea, Taiwan, etc.? It adds needless time and effort for major airports to double check people. Same goes with luggage, make them interline all the way through like before.
As for the Senate Dem protest, easy to say with escorts. Make all Congressmen take their shoes off then.
As for the Senate Dem protest, easy to say with escorts. Make all Congressmen take their shoes off then.
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Can they allow international travelers to not go through security again? Or select trusted countries like Japan, S. Korea, Taiwan, etc.? It adds needless time and effort for major airports to double check people. Same goes with luggage, make them interline all the way through like before.
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The challenge is ensuring every airport in that country has security protocols that meet the standards we would want, because a passenger from, say, Deagu Korea or Kobe Japan clears security there, transfers in Incheon/Haneda/Narita onto US. Nothing against those airports, but how does TSA get comfortable their security protocols are sufficient?
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The challenge is ensuring every airport in that country has security protocols that meet the standards we would want, because a passenger from, say, Deagu Korea or Kobe Japan clears security there, transfers in Incheon/Haneda/Narita onto US. Nothing against those airports, but how does TSA get comfortable their security protocols are sufficient?
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Judging solely by what I have seen at our airport, Pre is alive and well. They run a localized sign up/interview in one of the offices here from time to time. Over the last 3 weeks, every single time I have walked past that office, it has been lined up, seats nearby full of people filling out paperwork, etc. Understandably, that probably translates to a few hundred at the most, but the Pre program is still pulling people in. I still say that if you have International travel in your mix, Global Entry is the better buy for the money.
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Canada and Abu Dhabi (not Dubai) indeed have Global Entry lines but no TSA-PRE. The only place with TSA Pre outside of the US is NAS. Canadian airports allow Global Entry members (only the ones holding a physical GE card) to use a fast lane when using preclearance facilities en route to the US.

