Time for the entire TSA system/experience to go
#1
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Time for the entire TSA system/experience to go
"Until further notice." I wonder if they will actually re-impost the 311 rule on hand sanitizer when the crisis abates in the US, or if they will simply leave it in place permanently to reduce the cognitive burden on screeners.
I'd love to see this exception stay permanent. Maybe it'll be the first step toward eliminating the 311 rule entirely.
I'd love to see this exception stay permanent. Maybe it'll be the first step toward eliminating the 311 rule entirely.
I have no doubt that they will retain the 3-1-1 restrictions — even after this coronavirus situation is no longer intense — and/or just keep playing a PR game around “medical exemption”. I would love to eat crow on this one, but I have no doubt crow isn’t on the TSA menu for me.
-WTMD by default. (NoS has too many false alarms)
-HHMD, not pat-downs with gloved hands, to resolve most WTMD alarms. NoS as an option to resolve certain WTMD alarms.
-ID checks where screener paws your DL/passport needs to go. Either eliminate it or replace with non-contact barcode scans where the screener *never* touches the ID and is not in your face.
-End the war on water.
-End the shoe carnival at minimum for shoes that don't alarm
-(maybe) increase use of explosive-sniffing dogs if the false positive rate can be proven to be low.
The system should be tuned so that screeners never make physical contact with 99% of passengers, preferably 99.5%. Physical contact should be rare enough that screeners can completely replace PPE (gloves, possibly masks and gowns) between passenger contacts.
#3
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Like I said, covid-19 is a bigger boogeyman than the 18-year-old ghost of 9/11.
Real action against actual terrorists isn't about TSA, it's about the military and law enforcement. Real screening for credible WEI on aircraft doesn't require anywhere near the level of physical contact that TSA currently demands.
#4
Join Date: Sep 2012
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I made a similar post about 5 years ago, something about how much longer was TSA really going to last?
As awful as they are I have enjoyed some of the comedy, such as Adam Kokesh going up to these clueless
"security" workers with a camera and asking "how many terrorists have TSA caught?" Their reactions are priceless.
Or on the spooky side, does anyone remember Savannah Georgia TSA groping children getting *off* a train. That may have been an all time low.
As awful as they are I have enjoyed some of the comedy, such as Adam Kokesh going up to these clueless
"security" workers with a camera and asking "how many terrorists have TSA caught?" Their reactions are priceless.
Or on the spooky side, does anyone remember Savannah Georgia TSA groping children getting *off* a train. That may have been an all time low.
#5
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I made a similar post about 5 years ago, something about how much longer was TSA really going to last?
As awful as they are I have enjoyed some of the comedy, such as Adam Kokesh going up to these clueless
"security" workers with a camera and asking "how many terrorists have TSA caught?" Their reactions are priceless.
Or on the spooky side, does anyone remember Savannah Georgia TSA groping children getting *off* a train. That may have been an all time low.
As awful as they are I have enjoyed some of the comedy, such as Adam Kokesh going up to these clueless
"security" workers with a camera and asking "how many terrorists have TSA caught?" Their reactions are priceless.
Or on the spooky side, does anyone remember Savannah Georgia TSA groping children getting *off* a train. That may have been an all time low.
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We here on FT are a miniscule portion of the pax flying and probably see things differently from others. People think back to 9-11 and don't want a repeat, so they put up with TSAs nonsense. There have been NO attacks since 9-11 proof that TSA is hard at work and effective
But as bad as they are, they are no match for the LHR crew. Once I left JFK (connecting in LHR), my baggie (always) has a mini tube of toothpaste a small tube antibiotic ointment and some dental floss, but I also had a small tube of skin ointment (not in the baggie), I cleared TSA , in LHR it was detected = COMPLETE examination of everything in my carryon...lots of bags being taken apart that day.
Wasn't it the LHR crew that started the liquid and shoe circus? What if they got wind of bombs being concealed in the genital region
But as bad as they are, they are no match for the LHR crew. Once I left JFK (connecting in LHR), my baggie (always) has a mini tube of toothpaste a small tube antibiotic ointment and some dental floss, but I also had a small tube of skin ointment (not in the baggie), I cleared TSA , in LHR it was detected = COMPLETE examination of everything in my carryon...lots of bags being taken apart that day.
Wasn't it the LHR crew that started the liquid and shoe circus? What if they got wind of bombs being concealed in the genital region
#7
Join Date: Nov 2013
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To this day I am surprised, and (sadly) grateful, that TSA launched PreCheck.
PreCheck has helped a lot. My reasonable demands in the next iteration are:
PreCheck has helped a lot. My reasonable demands in the next iteration are:
- no document check.
- let me keep my jacket on, like your own guidelines say I can
- fire bad officers, reward good ones.