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OIG Report on Global Entry - June 24, 2019 - Will they make it harder now?

OIG Report on Global Entry - June 24, 2019 - Will they make it harder now?

Old Jul 5, 19, 10:35 pm
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OIG Report on Global Entry - June 24, 2019 - Will they make it harder now?

https://www.oig.dhs.gov/sites/defaul...9-49-Jun19.pdf

We've all seen the "denied" threads where people have gotten the 1 misdemeanor/10 year rule bent-- want to bet that's coming to an end?
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Old Jul 6, 19, 6:42 am
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CBP's Response CBP concurred with all six of our recommendations and initiated corrective actions to address the findings.
Same response as TSA gives to IG reports, which somehow never manage to actually get corrected.
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Old Jul 6, 19, 12:04 pm
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Originally Posted by Ari View Post
https://www.oig.dhs.gov/sites/defaul...9-49-Jun19.pdf

We've all seen the "denied" threads where people have gotten the 1 misdemeanor/10 year rule bent-- want to bet that's coming to an end?
A complete end? I think CBP may struggle to pull that off completely.

There are a few thousand people who were given final approval for GE membership but whom should have been rejected according to those who worked on that report.
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Old Jul 6, 19, 1:11 pm
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A complete end? I think CBP may struggle to pull that off completely.
There aren't that many enrollment centers, and there's only one vetting center. Not that hard to get the word down to just deny all questionables if that's the way they want to run things. Nothing is 100%, but we could see exceptions get a lot harder/rarer, even for those who meet the criteria.

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There are a few thousand people who were given final approval for GE membership but whom should have been rejected according to those who worked on that report.
That was before the report came out. They're not going to review their entire membership base to do what might be 5,000 revocations at the high end. But they can plug the "hole" to the extent that the "hole" is a hole and take the trouble to comply with their handbook since they seem to have one. I hope security clearances aren't treated this way, but they probably are, just at a slightly less lax level depending on the clearance level sought. GE isn't the model of a super-secure vetting program, but this report doesn't inspire confidence in our government's ability to write a set of instructions for itself and follow it which is a basic skill a government should have.
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Old Jul 6, 19, 1:51 pm
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I dont foresee GE existing for decades more, as they make advances toward more completely scoring travelers and playing screen-on-the-go games to grab whom they want to grab and doing to the selected that which is currently more akin to being sent for a secondary search in an increasingly paperless/paper-as-less-relevant era. GEs current flaws in process will become irrelevant at that point.

That CBP failing to look closely at the daily security code on GE kiosk receipts may increasingly be part of the intentional process of not looking at most receipts.

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Old Jul 7, 19, 7:06 am
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. . . playing screen-on-the-go games to grab whom they want to grab and doing to the selected that which is currently more akin to being sent for a secondary search — in an increasingly paperless/paper-as-less-relevant era . . .
Are we not already there in most other countries? Even in [gasp] TLV there are no paper customs/immigration declarations.
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Old Jul 7, 19, 3:58 pm
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It's somewhat irrelevant at TLV since every gets Roto-Rootered there to get on a plane.
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Old Dec 2, 19, 6:51 pm
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CBP's Global Entry Program Is Vulnerable to Exploitation

I discovered that the DHS Office of Inspector General issued a rather scathing report on Global Entry processes, including vetting of applicants. The report is dated June 24, 2019, so I am guessing that our processing times have increased as CBP tries to clean up its mess found by the OIG.

The report is here: https://www.oig.dhs.gov/sites/defaul...9-49-Jun19.pdf.

Also, related to whether you are processed slowly or quickly, here's a quote from the report:
"applicants complete and submit an application to CBP via the Trusted Traveler Program System on CBP's website. CBP then routes the application to the vetting center where officers query applicant biographic data against 21 different systems. (See appendix C for a description of the vetting data systems.) The database query discloses any derogatory information based on non. compliance with Federal laws and regulations, as well as any criminal history and terrorism matches. A vetting center officer reviews each potential match to determine whether additional information is required."

Hopefully certain people on this forum will quit continuing to insist it is completely random whether you are processed slowly or quickly. It isn't. You can reasonably argue that the CBP is terrible at evaluating this information, but you can't reasonably argue that they are doing it randomly.

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Old Dec 2, 19, 7:38 pm
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Hopefully certain people on this forum will quit continuing to insist it is completely random whether you are processed slowly or quickly. It isn't. You can reasonably argue that the CBP is terrible at evaluating this information, but you can't reasonably argue that they are doing it randomly.
For renewals, the report (which is very interesting) DOES describe randomness in the procedures.
Members seeking renewal may submit renewal requests prior to the expiration date and may bypass some of the initial vetting steps.
Random.
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Old Dec 3, 19, 6:33 am
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The words "and may bypass some of the initial vetting steps" means the CBP has the option of processing different renewals differently based on certain things they observe.

I do not read it to mean CBP will throw darts at a board to determine whether who gets to bypass some steps when renewing.
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Old Dec 3, 19, 11:46 pm
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For renewals, the report (which is very interesting) DOES describe randomness in the procedures.

Random.
That is code for "not everyone is re-interviewed upon renewal". That does not mean that the determination to re-interview upon renewal is based upon randomness.

The mods can merge this thread with the thread I created when this report was actually news:

OIG Report on Global Entry - June 24, 2019 - Will they make it harder

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