TSA Fails Most Tests
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The VIPR teams are the clerks who harass us at Metro, AMTARK, light rail and bus terminals. They should be cut from 31 to ZERO.
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Congress' Answer -- Throw More Money at the TSA
Well, I guess the latest inspection worked like a charm:
The House committees top Democrat, Bennie G. Thompson (Miss.) noted in a statement after the meeting that the White House budget request would reduce TSA funding next year.
After hearing from the TSA Administrator today, it is clear that TSA needs more resources to do its job properly, Thompson said.
He said about $1.28 billion collected from airline ticket security fees is instead spent on deficit reduction.
This money could be used to invest in new security technology and a fully staffed and effectively trained workforce that could put TSA on a stronger footing to prevent the next attack, Thompson said. Instead this Republican Administration and Republican Congress want to spend billions on an unnecessary border wall and over a trillion on tax cuts for corporations and the rich.
After hearing from the TSA Administrator today, it is clear that TSA needs more resources to do its job properly, Thompson said.
He said about $1.28 billion collected from airline ticket security fees is instead spent on deficit reduction.
This money could be used to invest in new security technology and a fully staffed and effectively trained workforce that could put TSA on a stronger footing to prevent the next attack, Thompson said. Instead this Republican Administration and Republican Congress want to spend billions on an unnecessary border wall and over a trillion on tax cuts for corporations and the rich.
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A few weeks ago, I was at work at DIA. I went out of security to visit an office in the main terminal and went back to the A Concourse security point. TSA had closed off all but 1 access point and the screening line was long and growing. They even funneled employees and TSA Pre Check into the same long line. It turns out they brought out the explosive detection dog out and was walking up and down the line.
Fortunately, they have a dog at only one end. (I won't say which end of the dog they are, everybody already knows that.)
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They just stop all passengers from moving for a few minutes while they reboot the dog.
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Right! TSA is taking their own responsibility to screening all carryon bags and passengers, as well. You cannot afford to lose their jobs. That's big problems!
This is very bad! They failed to screening the passengers' carryon bag. They should have to be screened all carryon bags. They could slip a gun, knives, boxcutters and a few other items, as well. TSA is not doing good jobs. They have to be improvement. They cannot be afford to lose their jobs. They have to do retraining in the classroom for 40 hours. You are taking own responsibilities to work for TSA. They should listen to manager, supervisor and a few other, as well.
This is very bad! They failed to screening the passengers' carryon bag. They should have to be screened all carryon bags. They could slip a gun, knives, boxcutters and a few other items, as well. TSA is not doing good jobs. They have to be improvement. They cannot be afford to lose their jobs. They have to do retraining in the classroom for 40 hours. You are taking own responsibilities to work for TSA. They should listen to manager, supervisor and a few other, as well.
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Now, now: some of them were/are actual sworn police officers. They're fun to annoy because you can do the "Are you detaining me" and probably cause game and it's even more effective and legally clear cut than it is when messing with the TSA airport rent-a-goon.
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Rep. Rogers' statement makes an assumption that the TSA was working correctly at one point, and now is broken. In my opinion, it's never worked correctly, but it really went downhill after October 2010 when the scanners were introduced. It's just become more broken.
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The desired outcome has been achieved. There have been no further terrowist attack on planes in the US and planes aren't falling out of the sky every day. Why should additional funding be required, right?
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Now, now: some of them were/are actual sworn police officers. They're fun to annoy because you can do the "Are you detaining me" and probably cause game and it's even more effective and legally clear cut than it is when messing with the TSA airport rent-a-goon.
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TSA Office of Inspection Criminal Investigators are now probably trying to find this "unnamed source":
http://abcnews.go.com/US/tsa-fails-t...ry?id=51022188
When ABC News asked the source if the failure rate was 80 percent, the response was, "You are in the ballpark."
http://abcnews.go.com/US/tsa-fails-t...ry?id=51022188
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TSA Office of Inspection Criminal Investigators are now probably trying to find this "unnamed source":
http://abcnews.go.com/US/tsa-fails-t...ry?id=51022188
http://abcnews.go.com/US/tsa-fails-t...ry?id=51022188
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I thought it was most interesting that they found 'vulnerabilities' associated with screener performance, equipment and procedures. That doesn't sound like they are doing a whole lot right, even after everyone enjoyed a two-week vacay at the ''academy".
If they aren't using or maintaining the equipment properly, why should the taxpayers fork out $$$ for expensive new unproven 3D technology? Are we going to send everyone back to the 'academy' for another two-week vacay to train them on the new machines when they've failed to master the current equipment?
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I think the point is that TSA could (and would) go after someone for 'leaking' the public hearings. All TSA has to do is retroactively reclassify the information revealed at the hearings as SSI or whatever.
I thought it was most interesting that they found 'vulnerabilities' associated with screener performance, equipment and procedures. That doesn't sound like they are doing a whole lot right, even after everyone enjoyed a two-week vacay at the ''academy".
If they aren't using or maintaining the equipment properly, why should the taxpayers fork out $$$ for expensive new unproven 3D technology? Are we going to send everyone back to the 'academy' for another two-week vacay to train them on the new machines when they've failed to master the current equipment?
I thought it was most interesting that they found 'vulnerabilities' associated with screener performance, equipment and procedures. That doesn't sound like they are doing a whole lot right, even after everyone enjoyed a two-week vacay at the ''academy".
If they aren't using or maintaining the equipment properly, why should the taxpayers fork out $$$ for expensive new unproven 3D technology? Are we going to send everyone back to the 'academy' for another two-week vacay to train them on the new machines when they've failed to master the current equipment?

