San Diego teacher detained after refusing to answer BP question
Jul 29, 2017, 7:11 am
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Too bad EVEYONE is not as legal minded as the teacher; if CBP were detaining ALL of "us" maybe this nearly facist policy would cease.
PS: The train from San Diego to the border crosses into the "forbidden zone", does CBP ask for riders to prove their citizenship? Or is it only people who drive in the zone?
PS: The train from San Diego to the border crosses into the "forbidden zone", does CBP ask for riders to prove their citizenship? Or is it only people who drive in the zone?
Jul 29, 2017, 7:14 am
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Jul 29, 2017, 7:50 am
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PS: Are there signs prominently posted along the "entrances" to the 100 mile zone noting that proof of citizenship might be required? When I travel in the US I never carry my passport.
When you receive a pp is there a note enclosed that while it is needed to enter FOREIGN countries it might be needed within 100 miles of the INTERIOR USA border?
Jul 31, 2017, 1:39 am
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NO, it is the reverse, the gov't is wasting citizens time.
PS: Are there signs prominently posted along the "entrances" to the 100 mile zone noting that proof of citizenship might be required? When I travel in the US I never carry my passport.
When you receive a pp is there a note enclosed that while it is needed to enter FOREIGN countries it might be needed within 100 miles of the INTERIOR USA border?
PS: Are there signs prominently posted along the "entrances" to the 100 mile zone noting that proof of citizenship might be required? When I travel in the US I never carry my passport.
When you receive a pp is there a note enclosed that while it is needed to enter FOREIGN countries it might be needed within 100 miles of the INTERIOR USA border?
Honestly, I don't know what I'd do. If alone, I guess I would comply as I wouldn't have any witnesses (I am South Asian, but have a standard California accent). If I'm with a large group, maybe then too so as not to waste everyone's time. If with one other person who thinks similarly to me, I might resist. i really wouldn't want to get shot or accidentally deported to Mexico...
Jul 31, 2017, 5:00 am
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They don't ask for proof of US citizenship. They just ask you if you're a US citizen or something to that effect, so US citizens, or at least those whose claim of US citizenship is accepted, need do nothing else.
Honestly, I don't know what I'd do. If alone, I guess I would comply as I wouldn't have any witnesses (I am South Asian, but have a standard California accent). If I'm with a large group, maybe then too so as not to waste everyone's time. If with one other person who thinks similarly to me, I might resist. i really wouldn't want to get shot or accidentally deported to Mexico...
Honestly, I don't know what I'd do. If alone, I guess I would comply as I wouldn't have any witnesses (I am South Asian, but have a standard California accent). If I'm with a large group, maybe then too so as not to waste everyone's time. If with one other person who thinks similarly to me, I might resist. i really wouldn't want to get shot or accidentally deported to Mexico...
Are they relying on the "honesty"
of illegals to declare that are indeed Illegals?
Jul 31, 2017, 5:12 am
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In a few posts here one can see the MAP of the 100 mile border--NYC is in the zone. At Main Street Flushing station on the #7 line, particularly in the rush hour, 1000's of people boarding the train(s) are mostly Asians, if CBP sets up a check-point there...the lines could cause hour long delays.
Jul 31, 2017, 5:58 am
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In a few posts here one can see the MAP of the 100 mile border--NYC is in the zone. At Main Street Flushing station on the #7 line, particularly in the rush hour, 1000's of people boarding the train(s) are mostly Asians, if CBP sets up a check-point there...the lines could cause hour long delays.
Jul 31, 2017, 1:30 pm
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For anyone who thinks that it's a waste of time to stand up for one's rights at these checkpoints, I say to each their own. If you are so against the fourth and fifth amendments to the constitution, feel free to sign a contract forgoing your rights for all interactions with law enforcement and government actors in the future, and post that contract all over social media for everyone to see. What's stopping you? There must be a way for an attorney to make this legally binding. This way, you'll never have to worry again about those pesky amendments getting in the way of your bootlicking tendencies.
Jul 31, 2017, 4:30 pm
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You may want to look up the definition of "inalienable" eg, inalienable rights.
Jul 31, 2017, 4:32 pm
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Once they have stopped you and forced you to interact with them, they have more opportunity to generate "reasonable, articulable suspicion" which permits them to detain you, conduct further investigation that might result in probable cause for arrest.