Diminished mental capacity not Pre eligible
May 25, 2016 | 1:42 pm
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https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/disability/ada
If a person with diminished capacity is excluded from Pre Check flat out based only on that term then I think that might be considered an unfair discrimination. Not taking into account the persons ability to meet other requirements of Pre Check limits that persons access to public transportation and government activities.
If a person with diminished capacity is excluded from Pre Check flat out based only on that term then I think that might be considered an unfair discrimination. Not taking into account the persons ability to meet other requirements of Pre Check limits that persons access to public transportation and government activities.
1) The ADA doesn't apply to all branches of federal government. I'm unsure of whether it applies to the TSA.
2) They're not being denied access to transportation, they're just being directed to a different security checkpoint.
3) The ADA doesn't apply to air carriers, though it's not clear this would be an air carrier issues but rather a TSA issue. Still, airlines are bound by the Air Carrier Access Act.
May 25, 2016 | 1:58 pm
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Good discussion. Hope they're having it at TSA HQ. Happy to send OP if they want a Voice of the People.
chgoeditor has seized on the likely logic, although where to draw the line (IQ 60?70? 80? 90? undocumented?) and ADA are the obvious counter-concerns.
Minors is a red herring (unless traveling alone) as they're under the supervision of an adult. And whoever thinks vets with PTSD are walking around with mastery of IED-building probably needs to meet more vets.
chgoeditor has seized on the likely logic, although where to draw the line (IQ 60?70? 80? 90? undocumented?) and ADA are the obvious counter-concerns.
Minors is a red herring (unless traveling alone) as they're under the supervision of an adult. And whoever thinks vets with PTSD are walking around with mastery of IED-building probably needs to meet more vets.
May 25, 2016 | 2:04 pm
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I'm not a lawyer, but...
1) The ADA doesn't apply to all branches of federal government. I'm unsure of whether it applies to the TSA.
2) They're not being denied access to transportation, they're just being directed to a different security checkpoint.
3) The ADA doesn't apply to air carriers, though it's not clear this would be an air carrier issues but rather a TSA issue. Still, airlines are bound by the Air Carrier Access Act.
1) The ADA doesn't apply to all branches of federal government. I'm unsure of whether it applies to the TSA.
2) They're not being denied access to transportation, they're just being directed to a different security checkpoint.
3) The ADA doesn't apply to air carriers, though it's not clear this would be an air carrier issues but rather a TSA issue. Still, airlines are bound by the Air Carrier Access Act.
May 25, 2016 | 2:17 pm
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May 25, 2016 | 3:08 pm
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Well, if we're using "propensity to commit terrorist acts" as the criteria for PreCheck or not, then there's a good argument to bar all current and former members of the US armed forces from PreCheck, since they are statistically more likely to commit a terrorist act on US soil than the US population at large. Of course, the numbers are miniscule, but there's certainly no reason to give members of the military and veterans any ADVANTAGE when it comes to PreCheck.
May 25, 2016 | 3:11 pm
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Presumably they don't have Twitter access at the United States Penitentiary, Allenwood.
May 25, 2016 | 3:15 pm
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Well, if we're using "propensity to commit terrorist acts" as the criteria for PreCheck or not, then there's a good argument to bar all current and former members of the US armed forces from PreCheck, since they are statistically more likely to commit a terrorist act on US soil than the US population at large. Of course, the numbers are miniscule, but there's certainly no reason to give members of the military and veterans any ADVANTAGE when it comes to PreCheck.
May 25, 2016 | 4:16 pm
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Well, if we're using "propensity to commit terrorist acts" as the criteria for PreCheck or not, then there's a good argument to bar all current and former members of the US armed forces from PreCheck, since they are statistically more likely to commit a terrorist act on US soil than the US population at large. Of course, the numbers are miniscule, but there's certainly no reason to give members of the military and veterans any ADVANTAGE when it comes to PreCheck.
As a former military member I find your statement to be very distasteful!
May 25, 2016 | 4:34 pm
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This 2009 report addressed the risk of returning veterans becoming terrorists. Timothy McVeigh was a Gulf War veteran.
http://fas.org/irp/eprint/rightwing.pdf
May 25, 2016 | 5:43 pm
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Presumably they don't have Twitter access at the United States Penitentiary, Allenwood.
May 25, 2016 | 7:02 pm
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This 2009 report addressed the risk of returning veterans becoming terrorists. Timothy McVeigh was a Gulf War veteran.
http://fas.org/irp/eprint/rightwing.pdf
http://fas.org/irp/eprint/rightwing.pdf
And yeah, if you're an active military person you get Precheck for free without further ado. So, this logic seems fraught. And disrespectful. But vets die and get dismembered for our right to say things like this.
May 25, 2016 | 7:14 pm
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https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/disability/ada
If a person with diminished capacity is excluded from Pre Check flat out based only on that term then I think that might be considered an unfair discrimination. Not taking into account the persons ability to meet other requirements of Pre Check limits that persons access to public transportation and government activities.
If a person with diminished capacity is excluded from Pre Check flat out based only on that term then I think that might be considered an unfair discrimination. Not taking into account the persons ability to meet other requirements of Pre Check limits that persons access to public transportation and government activities.
DHS is a government agency. How does the ADA apply?