Long TSA Lines [merged threads]
Jun 10, 2016 | 6:34 pm
#766
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OTOH, LAS at noon yesterday: Pre-check backed up to the concourse with pax wondering what the "pre-check" on their BP's meant--25 mins. to clear.
Two belt X-ray clerks staring at each bag for at least 15 secs.; one for 1 min. 18 secs by my watch (yeah, the pax after me, while I waited for my bags to clear the chute).
Heaven forbid I reach in and grab my cleared bags
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BTW, got to the Centurion club and TSA has disabled the lockers. "They said it was too dangerous."
Two belt X-ray clerks staring at each bag for at least 15 secs.; one for 1 min. 18 secs by my watch (yeah, the pax after me, while I waited for my bags to clear the chute).
Heaven forbid I reach in and grab my cleared bags
.BTW, got to the Centurion club and TSA has disabled the lockers. "They said it was too dangerous."
Jun 13, 2016 | 11:08 am
#768
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Suing the TSA
Here's an attempt at compensation:
http://www.startribune.com/twin-citi...ght/382694411/
From the article:
"In the lawsuit filed in federal court last week, Hooman Nikizad said his wait of more than 90 minutes on March 19 before he passed through security screening by the federal Transportation Security Administration (TSA) made him miss his late-afternoon flight to Los Angeles....The money being sought, he said, is to reimburse him for a replacement ticket, additional ground transportation expenses and the $75 court fee to file his claim."
Might be fun to watch, but I expect "governmental immunity" will be result. Or that it's his fault for not showing up early enough (whatever that might mean) for his flight.
http://www.startribune.com/twin-citi...ght/382694411/
From the article:
"In the lawsuit filed in federal court last week, Hooman Nikizad said his wait of more than 90 minutes on March 19 before he passed through security screening by the federal Transportation Security Administration (TSA) made him miss his late-afternoon flight to Los Angeles....The money being sought, he said, is to reimburse him for a replacement ticket, additional ground transportation expenses and the $75 court fee to file his claim."
Might be fun to watch, but I expect "governmental immunity" will be result. Or that it's his fault for not showing up early enough (whatever that might mean) for his flight.
Jun 13, 2016 | 11:18 am
#769
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In the last week I've gone through security at SMF, SEA, SLC, and ANC and haven't had any issues with noticeably longer security lines. I did notice at all locations there were people who had been selected for PreCheck who obviously hadn't applied for it judging by the fact they had no idea what it was and were taking off their shoes/jackets/etc.
Jun 13, 2016 | 6:57 pm
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Jun 14, 2016 | 11:35 am
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Jun 14, 2016 | 11:45 am
#773
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You never know when someone with club access might succeed in getting a heavily frosted cupcake or prescription nitro pills or a Harry Potter magic wand past the checkpoint and into the club lockers, where previously it would lie undetected and undetectable behind a locked door.
Now we are safe from that extremely high risk. In the US.
Now we are safe from that extremely high risk. In the US.
Jun 15, 2016 | 4:48 pm
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Just a data point for anyone curious. Arrived at the A checkpoint at around 11:50 pm and to my total shock they had a pre-check check line open! Of course I forgot to take my phone out of my pocket so they sent me back out to put it in a bowl and when I went back through I got the "random" three beeps and got sent to the scanner. Oddly enough even though there was nothing under my shirt it still 'hit' on two places. The TSO just waved me on through after I pulled my collar down showing there was nothing there.
Jun 15, 2016 | 7:46 pm
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Just a data point for anyone curious. Arrived at the A checkpoint at around 11:50 pm and to my total shock they had a pre-check check line open! Of course I forgot to take my phone out of my pocket so they sent me back out to put it in a bowl and when I went back through I got the "random" three beeps and got sent to the scanner. Oddly enough even though there was nothing under my shirt it still 'hit' on two places. The TSO just waved me on through after I pulled my collar down showing there was nothing there.
Jun 17, 2016 | 11:19 am
#776
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Went through precheck at SEA this morning.
They had one HSS person at the entrance to the line to check if you were eligible. She didn't know where to look on my boarding pass and couldn't find the precheck logo, so after about 5 seconds, I pointed it out to her.
Then there was a second HSS person, after TDC, who advised people to take everything out of their pockets, do this, do that.
So they add two people to the line, and they add zero value - but that's only to be expected.
They had one HSS person at the entrance to the line to check if you were eligible. She didn't know where to look on my boarding pass and couldn't find the precheck logo, so after about 5 seconds, I pointed it out to her.
Then there was a second HSS person, after TDC, who advised people to take everything out of their pockets, do this, do that.
So they add two people to the line, and they add zero value - but that's only to be expected.
Jun 17, 2016 | 11:23 am
#777
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Leave it to TSA to find a way to double or quadruple the number of people assigned to do a task poorly.
The function the second, dedicated person is performing is generally performed overseas by the belt monitor.
In a regular 'indoor' voice.
S/he will quietly prompt each pax, as necessary, about electronics, liquids, belts, pockets, all while simultaneously monitoring the belt.
Two functions at once! Who knew it was possible! (only those who fly practically anywhere outside the US).
The function the second, dedicated person is performing is generally performed overseas by the belt monitor.
In a regular 'indoor' voice.
S/he will quietly prompt each pax, as necessary, about electronics, liquids, belts, pockets, all while simultaneously monitoring the belt.
Two functions at once! Who knew it was possible! (only those who fly practically anywhere outside the US).
Jun 17, 2016 | 11:54 am
#778
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Went through precheck at SEA this morning.
They had one HSS person at the entrance to the line to check if you were eligible. She didn't know where to look on my boarding pass and couldn't find the precheck logo, so after about 5 seconds, I pointed it out to her.
Then there was a second HSS person, after TDC, who advised people to take everything out of their pockets, do this, do that.
So they add two people to the line, and they add zero value - but that's only to be expected.
They had one HSS person at the entrance to the line to check if you were eligible. She didn't know where to look on my boarding pass and couldn't find the precheck logo, so after about 5 seconds, I pointed it out to her.
Then there was a second HSS person, after TDC, who advised people to take everything out of their pockets, do this, do that.
So they add two people to the line, and they add zero value - but that's only to be expected.
Jun 17, 2016 | 12:17 pm
#779
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I was going through security there a few weeks ago when it was their first day (or hour) on the job. Lots of deer-in-headlight looks from the TSA, where the one-stripers seemed clueless about who they were and what they were doing there.
Jun 17, 2016 | 1:18 pm
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If they are speaking quietly and making eye contact as they advise folks to completely empty pockets, etc. as they realign/adjust bins, then they are doing a better job and contributing more to efficiency and lack of stress than TSA's belt monitors generally do.