Long TSA Lines [merged threads]
#736
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1500 TSA agents have been assigned to political rallies since April:
http://gizmodo.com/over-1-500-tsa-ag...cal-1779705491
Why on earth can't the campaigns pay for private security and what do they have to do with transportation?
http://gizmodo.com/over-1-500-tsa-ag...cal-1779705491
Why on earth can't the campaigns pay for private security and what do they have to do with transportation?

To the latter question: both TSA and the Secret Service are part of the same parent organization, DHS. This sort of "borrowing" from different branches of DHS has happened before --- for example, Super Bowls.
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To the former question: do you really want the next presidential election potentially being decided by a lone assassin, as might have happened in 1968?
To the latter question: both TSA and the Secret Service are part of the same parent organization, DHS. This sort of "borrowing" from different branches of DHS has happened before --- for example, Super Bowls.
To the latter question: both TSA and the Secret Service are part of the same parent organization, DHS. This sort of "borrowing" from different branches of DHS has happened before --- for example, Super Bowls.
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To the former question: do you really want the next presidential election potentially being decided by a lone assassin, as might have happened in 1968?
To the latter question: both TSA and the Secret Service are part of the same parent organization, DHS. This sort of "borrowing" from different branches of DHS has happened before --- for example, Super Bowls.
To the latter question: both TSA and the Secret Service are part of the same parent organization, DHS. This sort of "borrowing" from different branches of DHS has happened before --- for example, Super Bowls.
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Isn't it amazing that the long lines seem to have magically cleared up, at least according to TSA, on this holiday weekend? Who travels by air for Memorial Day weekend?
Neffenger has been saying there will be 768 new screeners on duty in a month. 4 weeks x 192 trainees every week = 768 new screeners. However, 468 of those will be replacing the 117 screeners who leave each week. Therefore, there will be a net increase of 300 screeners.
Why can't the TSA be honest? Why do they believe they have to make things seem to be what they aren't?
Neffenger has been saying there will be 768 new screeners on duty in a month. 4 weeks x 192 trainees every week = 768 new screeners. However, 468 of those will be replacing the 117 screeners who leave each week. Therefore, there will be a net increase of 300 screeners.
Why can't the TSA be honest? Why do they believe they have to make things seem to be what they aren't?
They have employees, they are just poorly scheduled.I connected in MDW during Southwest's last bank, eyeballing checkpoint from the airside, they had maybe a 10 minute wait from past experiences.
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To the former question: do you really want the next presidential election potentially being decided by a lone assassin, as might have happened in 1968?
To the latter question: both TSA and the Secret Service are part of the same parent organization, DHS. This sort of "borrowing" from different branches of DHS has happened before --- for example, Super Bowls.
To the latter question: both TSA and the Secret Service are part of the same parent organization, DHS. This sort of "borrowing" from different branches of DHS has happened before --- for example, Super Bowls.
So how much of the TSA line slowdowns are due to TSA assigning people to protect election campaign events? If it's significant, it's long overdue for the TSA to get out of the campaign "security" business.
You do realize that election campaign events have been having security in place long before the TSA was created? Without the TSA putting on a show of force at election campaign events, things weren't all that bad.

And no cross checking of boarding passes against IDs either.
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2800 screener positions are currently occupied by non-working BDOs.
Put those people back to work actually doing something productive.
Congress gave TSA $$ and TSA immediately wasted it on dog teams instead of staffing dedicated Pre lanes that have already been sold and paid for.
Closed Pre lanes contribute to the slowdowns (which is exactly why TSA closed them down consistently across the country during the work slowdown). Every Pre pax forced to wait in a regular lane, disrobe, unpack, and use the NoS contributes unnecessarily to the slowdowns.
The 9/11 fee is NOT behind inflation. Too much of the money collected is either immediately diverted to non-TSA purposes or is spent on new 'initiatives' and play toys that contribute nothing to security and everything to pax delays and corrupt officials' bank accounts.
Put those people back to work actually doing something productive.
Congress gave TSA $$ and TSA immediately wasted it on dog teams instead of staffing dedicated Pre lanes that have already been sold and paid for.
Closed Pre lanes contribute to the slowdowns (which is exactly why TSA closed them down consistently across the country during the work slowdown). Every Pre pax forced to wait in a regular lane, disrobe, unpack, and use the NoS contributes unnecessarily to the slowdowns.
The 9/11 fee is NOT behind inflation. Too much of the money collected is either immediately diverted to non-TSA purposes or is spent on new 'initiatives' and play toys that contribute nothing to security and everything to pax delays and corrupt officials' bank accounts.
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I just went through security at SEA and they had one of the HSS security folks in front of the WTMD at precheck. All she did was stand there and instruct people to empty their pockets.
I talked to the supervisor about this great value add and he stated he would tell people to do the same thing because they might randomly get selected for additional screening and would have to empty their pockets anyways at that time.
I talked to the supervisor about this great value add and he stated he would tell people to do the same thing because they might randomly get selected for additional screening and would have to empty their pockets anyways at that time.
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http://money.cnn.com/2016/05/12/pf/t...ecurity-lines/
According to the article, $26 million of that will go toward overtime for existing screeners. At an average of $21.63 per hour at a 1.5x overtime rate of $32.45, that equates to roughly 801,000 hours of overtime over the next year. Split among about 48,000 screeners, that's 16 hours of OT per screener per year, or an extra half hour of time on the job per week.
So, your average screener will be working an extra half hour per week to reduce these lines, earning an extra $16 for their valiant (or Valium, in some cases) efforts to keep us safe from water in bottles and cupcakes in jars.
And the lines have evaporated.
Of course, as cholie has pointed out, if 2800 BDOs were shifted back to regular screeners, that would equate to an additional 5,824,000 screener work hours over the next year, at no additional cost, with no overtime, no extra hires, and no additional benefits needed.
But of course, then planes would fall out of the sky, because BDOs have been stopping terror threats left and right over the last few years with their keen powers of observation and highly insightful checklist of suspicious human behaviors like nervousness and lack of nervousness.
But maybe I'm being too cynical...
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In The Dallas Morning News:
What your smartphone tells DFW Airport may help your line move faster
Additional TSA staffers headed to DFW Airport to help combat long security lines
Beginning this summer, your smartphone will be the latest tool helping keep security lines in check at DFW International Airport.
The airports board of directors approved a $600,000 contract with AT&T on Thursday to use wireless data collected by the company to monitor passenger flows through the terminals in real time.
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The system works by using anonymized data collected from smartphone Wi-Fi signals to map where and how passengers move throughout the terminals. The data is already collected by AT&T, which provides free Wi-Fi at DFW, meaning the airport wont have to install any new hardware for the initiative.
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The airports board of directors approved a $600,000 contract with AT&T on Thursday to use wireless data collected by the company to monitor passenger flows through the terminals in real time.
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The system works by using anonymized data collected from smartphone Wi-Fi signals to map where and how passengers move throughout the terminals. The data is already collected by AT&T, which provides free Wi-Fi at DFW, meaning the airport wont have to install any new hardware for the initiative.
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DFW will be one of several major U.S. airports receiving additional TSA staffing as the agency battles long lines at major airports around the country that have left some travelers waiting an hour or more to clear security checkpoints.
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DFW hasnt seen the same extreme lines as other major airports, with most waits taking five to 10 minutes, Donohue said. But during peak times the wait can stretch to 30 minutes, something the airport wants to improve.
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DFW will be one of several major U.S. airports receiving additional TSA staffing as the agency battles long lines at major airports around the country that have left some travelers waiting an hour or more to clear security checkpoints.
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DFW hasnt seen the same extreme lines as other major airports, with most waits taking five to 10 minutes, Donohue said. But during peak times the wait can stretch to 30 minutes, something the airport wants to improve.
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ExtortionCheck for All - IAD, June 5
I arrived about 3:45 pm for the 6:30 BA 216 to LHR. (Mrs. Flies, my driver, bought into the three-hour hype.) 5-minute bag check at BA. I started towards the west CP and the moat dragons were sending everyone to the east CP, claiming that it was very busy. The sign said a 2-min wait at the east CP and a 3-min wait at the west CP. I walked past the paid ExtortionCheck line and it didn't seem terribly long.
I went down the stairs to the east checkpoint. There were two ID checkers' desks at each end of the hall, a clerk walking Buster, the Showdog, and there were ~10 SPOTNiks standing around. I got to the belt and screening was ExtortionCheck for all. The NOSs were completely turned off. You could tell that they had been in this mode for quite a while because there were no bins to be found. The people who literally bought the extortion must have no idea this is going on (unless they read FT!)
I went down the stairs to the east checkpoint. There were two ID checkers' desks at each end of the hall, a clerk walking Buster, the Showdog, and there were ~10 SPOTNiks standing around. I got to the belt and screening was ExtortionCheck for all. The NOSs were completely turned off. You could tell that they had been in this mode for quite a while because there were no bins to be found. The people who literally bought the extortion must have no idea this is going on (unless they read FT!)
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I got to the belt and screening was ExtortionCheck for all. The NOSs were completely turned off. You could tell that they had been in this mode for quite a while because there were no bins to be found. The people who literally bought the extortion must have no idea this is going on (unless they read FT!)
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