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WSB-TV: TSA wait times reach more than an hour at Atlanta's Hartsfield-Jackson (ATL)
A video report about Monday morning security delays at Atlanta:
WSB-TV: Security wait times reach more than an hour at Hartsfield-Jackson (Published on 12:19 PM)
WSB-TV: Security wait times reach more than an hour at Hartsfield-Jackson (Published on 12:19 PM)
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Something's gotta give. 07:00 at DEN today saw the south checkpoint PreCheck line snake all the way back to baggage claim - had to be 30-45 mins. The regular line was at least an hour or more.
I had CLEAR so I was thru in 5 mins. TSA is going to have to do something this summer or there's going to be full scale riots.
I had CLEAR so I was thru in 5 mins. TSA is going to have to do something this summer or there's going to be full scale riots.
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Originally Posted by chollie
I hate to say it, but I think TSA wants to provoke a riot or a major disturbance.
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A few years ago I was in a line of 7 passengers at JFK; it took 20 minutes to get through. Not all of what's going on now is deliberate sabotage; the TSA has always been slovenly. None of it has to do with inadequate staffing. There is plenty of staff; the staff is just lazy and slovenly, and busy playing junior detective.
The test results show that the TSA misses 95% of weapons. The reason for this is that they spend all their time worrying about water bottles. The reaction to the test results has been to focus even harder on water bottles. If there's really a terrorist threat to aviation, somebody is going to storm an airport and shoot up the checkpoint line. The way to prevent something like this is to take away the TSA's toys and make the screeners screen, rather than waste time enforcing deference to their authority (which most of them see as their main job).
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It's PreCheck lines that should always be open and being used for most passengers, while the non-PreCheck screening should be for a random minority if anybody. Then all these ridiculous slowdowns at airport screening checkpoints in the US would be subject to being fixed even further. PreCheck type screening at airports should be the norm not the exception, and yet TSA markets it as an exception and this closes down these lines however the TSA employees in charge of the site want it.
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New York, New Jersey Airports Threaten to Ditch TSA, Hire Own Security Screeners
https://consumerist.com/2016/05/10/n...ity-screeners/
https://consumerist.com/2016/05/10/n...ity-screeners/
“We can no longer tolerate the continuing inadequacy of TSA passenger screening services,” the letter states, adding that, “long waits are prompting complaints from passengers, terminal operators, and airlines alike.”
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All talk and no action.
Meanwhile, Congress gave Neffy $$$ and absolutely nothing has changed.
I take that back. Money that could have been spent on hiring screeners has instead been spent on untested new technology that must be installed right now, in the middle of huge manufactured slowdowns - and at the world's busiest airport.
Once it is installed, it will be the only fully-staffed checkpoint not operating under deliberate slowdowns. This will be used to 'prove' that the expensive new technology is the answer to all our problems, meaning full-speed ahead installing the new technology in all airports.
Does Neffy have a personal stake in the company that manufactures and installs this expensive 'new technology'? Is he using his remaining months in office to feather his retirement nest while pax are put at risk?
Meanwhile, Congress gave Neffy $$$ and absolutely nothing has changed.
I take that back. Money that could have been spent on hiring screeners has instead been spent on untested new technology that must be installed right now, in the middle of huge manufactured slowdowns - and at the world's busiest airport.
Once it is installed, it will be the only fully-staffed checkpoint not operating under deliberate slowdowns. This will be used to 'prove' that the expensive new technology is the answer to all our problems, meaning full-speed ahead installing the new technology in all airports.
Does Neffy have a personal stake in the company that manufactures and installs this expensive 'new technology'? Is he using his remaining months in office to feather his retirement nest while pax are put at risk?
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It's PreCheck lines that should always be open and being used for most passengers, while the non-PreCheck screening should be for a random minority if anybody. Then all these ridiculous slowdowns at airport screening checkpoints in the US would be subject to being fixed even further. PreCheck type screening at airports should be the norm not the exception, and yet TSA markets it as an exception and this closes down these lines however the TSA employees in charge of the site want it.
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It's PreCheck lines that should always be open and being used for most passengers, while the non-PreCheck screening should be for a random minority if anybody. Then all these ridiculous slowdowns at airport screening checkpoints in the US would be subject to being fixed even further. PreCheck type screening at airports should be the norm not the exception, and yet TSA markets it as an exception and this closes down these lines however the TSA employees in charge of the site want it.
TSA just couldn't state: You must let us do a background check on you before you can board a plane" - they knew that wouldn't fly (pun intended).
So they came up with PreCheck "perks" of allowing passengers to keep their shoes and clothes on in exchange for their fingerprints and background checks.
PreCheck isn't about "expedited screening", it's about having as much info as possible on as many passengers as possible.
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New York, New Jersey Airports Threaten to Ditch TSA, Hire Own Security Screeners
https://consumerist.com/2016/05/10/n...ity-screeners/
https://consumerist.com/2016/05/10/n...ity-screeners/
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Tuesday at ATL:
The rest of the story: AJC - Long security lines at Atlanta airport continue (May 10, 2016)
Long security lines at Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport continued Tuesday morning, with wait times of up to an hour.
Heavy morning passenger volumes led to lines snaking through the terminal. Airport officials are urging travelers to get to the airport at least 2 1/2 to 3 hours before their flight.
Heavy morning passenger volumes led to lines snaking through the terminal. Airport officials are urging travelers to get to the airport at least 2 1/2 to 3 hours before their flight.
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PreCheck and other DHS "trusted traveler" programs are indeed about gathering more biometric information on as many passengers as possible. The reasons they want biometric capture isn't all innocent, and it never has been.
The PANYNJ is a government creature, so the PANYNJ's talk doesn't really excite me. I'd be more excited if the public at large -- including the US airlines -- told the TSA to go pound sand and got Congress to mandate PreCheck LLL type screening be the default form of screening for passengers in the main.
The PANYNJ is a government creature, so the PANYNJ's talk doesn't really excite me. I'd be more excited if the public at large -- including the US airlines -- told the TSA to go pound sand and got Congress to mandate PreCheck LLL type screening be the default form of screening for passengers in the main.

