TSA PreCheck is dying a slow and painful death
Mar 5, 2016, 11:22 am
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It's simple: It's work slow down done on purpose to get more funding back. Which is just another reason why large sprawling government agencies like the TSA should never be created in the first place. It's not like they have a clue about how to ensure safety. Tarmac workers that have much easier access to aircraft don't go through the checkpoint anyway. It's a joke. On us.
Mar 5, 2016, 11:24 am
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See, the thing is -- and this is an important point -- it's not a blanket failure. It's failing in some circumstances, but many of those who have signed up for it see it as an extraordinary success. I think the idea was sound, and the execution has been solid. At the airports I use, it works remarkably well.
Please don't make this about ideology. If you can't help yourself, argue on the merits rather than creating and fighting a straw man that suits your political view.
Please don't make this about ideology. If you can't help yourself, argue on the merits rather than creating and fighting a straw man that suits your political view.
Key words: the airports you use.
It's obvious from the photos on @AskTSA, as well as the many posts there and here and elsewhere, that your experience is not universal - far from it.
It's pretty obvious from the multiple complaints on @AskTSA and the canned lies issued in response that Neffenger does not fully support Pre and many FSDs don't either.
What disgusts me even more than having a TSO's face and hands in my crotch every time I fly is the constant taxpayer-funded lies on the blog and now, on twitter. I realize no organization is 100% perfect, including my own, but I do not understand why anyone of integrity and honesty continues to work for and embrace an organization that lies all the time.
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Mar 5, 2016, 11:46 am
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Mar 5, 2016, 11:48 am
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Mar 5, 2016, 11:49 am
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That probably is partly responsible. But it is backfiring on them as airports such as ATL are gearing up to fire the TSA and bring their own security in.
But you know one town where PreCheck still works great? Washington of course! I often use PreCheck at IAD and DCA. I've never seen it closed there. Keeping their local customers happy.
But you know one town where PreCheck still works great? Washington of course! I often use PreCheck at IAD and DCA. I've never seen it closed there. Keeping their local customers happy.
Mar 5, 2016, 11:58 am
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Naffenger, a Coast Guard veteran who has been head of the TSA for eight months, explains that staffing is currently at 41,000 screeners - which is significantly below the 42,500 Congressional cap.
So the lines are attributed to TSO being down 1500 screeners?
1) start putting all the screeners at the checkpoint to work.
2) that works out to 30 screeners per state - not per airport, per state.
3) did those 1500 screeners just quit? Seriously? Because otherwise, being 'short' 1500 non-working screeners doesn't explain the very sudden and dramatic increase in wait times.
Neffenger's barely getting settled into the job and he's already decided that telling lies is the way to run the agency. Did he train under Blogdad Bob? Or was an ability to lie just a requirement for the job?
Mar 5, 2016, 12:12 pm
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Mar 5, 2016, 12:14 pm
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Mar 5, 2016, 12:45 pm
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See, the thing is -- and this is an important point -- it's not a blanket failure. It's failing in some circumstances, but many of those who have signed up for it see it as an extraordinary success. I think the idea was sound, and the execution has been solid. At the airports I use, it works remarkably well.
Please don't make this about ideology. If you can't help yourself, argue on the merits rather than creating and fighting a straw man that suits your political view.
Please don't make this about ideology. If you can't help yourself, argue on the merits rather than creating and fighting a straw man that suits your political view.
Mar 5, 2016, 12:51 pm
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Lies, lies, and more lies.
So the lines are attributed to TSO being down 1500 screeners?
1) start putting all the screeners at the checkpoint to work.
2) that works out to 30 screeners per state - not per airport, per state.
3) did those 1500 screeners just quit? Seriously? Because otherwise, being 'short' 1500 non-working screeners doesn't explain the very sudden and dramatic increase in wait times.
Neffenger's barely getting settled into the job and he's already decided that telling lies is the way to run the agency. Did he train under Blogdad Bob? Or was an ability to lie just a requirement for the job?
So the lines are attributed to TSO being down 1500 screeners?
1) start putting all the screeners at the checkpoint to work.
2) that works out to 30 screeners per state - not per airport, per state.
3) did those 1500 screeners just quit? Seriously? Because otherwise, being 'short' 1500 non-working screeners doesn't explain the very sudden and dramatic increase in wait times.
Neffenger's barely getting settled into the job and he's already decided that telling lies is the way to run the agency. Did he train under Blogdad Bob? Or was an ability to lie just a requirement for the job?
Mar 5, 2016, 12:54 pm
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Being someone who flies frequently out of EWR Terminal C to Europe, I’ve had the distinct “pleasure” of experiencing the stark contrast in TSA wait times beginning in January. With TSA-Pre and Premier Access, I’ve still experienced 45-minute wait times in the last few weeks as both of these lines are overly long and slow-moving. Most of the TSA agents are rude and arrogant and prone to shouting out orders. Given the fact that there are no lanes in evidence around the entrance to TSA at C3, it’s no surprise that confusion reigns in the huge crowd milling about. On 2/29 around 3:30pm, coming down from Premier Check-in, I experienced extremely unpleasant yelling from two agents attempting to move TSA-Pre people into long queues on the next floor down. In addition to the lines and bad vibes, I noticed a number of TSA agents just standing around. One of them did not exude hostility and since I was in line standing near him for more than a few minutes, I decided to strike up a conversation about the situation. He turned out to be quite affable and when asked why the security had become such a nightmare seemingly overnight, he stated that it was a question of understaffing and gave the Nuremburg defense: “just following orders”.
Mar 5, 2016, 1:04 pm
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See, the thing is -- and this is an important point -- it's not a blanket failure. It's failing in some circumstances, but many of those who have signed up for it see it as an extraordinary success. I think the idea was sound, and the execution has been solid. At the airports I use, it works remarkably well.
Please don't make this about ideology. If you can't help yourself, argue on the merits rather than creating and fighting a straw man that suits your political view.
Please don't make this about ideology. If you can't help yourself, argue on the merits rather than creating and fighting a straw man that suits your political view.
Mar 5, 2016, 1:09 pm
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From the link in post 34 we finally get to the truth.
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The lines have also been slower because TSA officials don't want their screeners rushed. Last summer the administration failed to identify weapons and other mistakes during a covert investigation by the Department of Homeland Security, and they are facing other pressures in the wake of recent terrorist attacks in Europe, the Middle East and Africa.
Mar 5, 2016, 1:21 pm
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http://news.yahoo.com/long-waits-sec...012458363.html
TSA screening operations around the country are showing signs of typical TSA incompetence. ATL has threatened to go with private screeners and now MSP is complaining to TSA about unacceptable TSA customer service. A decrease of 15% of screeners is blamed partially and of course there is the obligatory suggestion to sign up for Pre Check as if that will somehow resolve TSA's complete inability to manage predictable workloads.
TSA is not the solution to airport security screenings.
TSA screening operations around the country are showing signs of typical TSA incompetence. ATL has threatened to go with private screeners and now MSP is complaining to TSA about unacceptable TSA customer service. A decrease of 15% of screeners is blamed partially and of course there is the obligatory suggestion to sign up for Pre Check as if that will somehow resolve TSA's complete inability to manage predictable workloads.
TSA is not the solution to airport security screenings.
It's nonsense for TSA to suggest to people that the solution is getting PreCheck. The solution is to get rid of TSA.
Mar 5, 2016, 1:38 pm
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