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Old May 18, 2018 | 11:56 am
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Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
For the life of me I don't understand how this information would benefit DHS/TSA in its efforts to defend against your claims.
Nor I. But I'm not the one who wrote it.

Have we reached the point where peacefully speaking out against a government agency is a crime in the United States?
They're not suggesting they'd put you in jail. Only that they might want to depose you, get records from you, force you to appear as a witness at trial, etc. And everyone else, too. That's totally not an imposition, right, citizen?


More pragmatically: my impression is that this was written by a contractor paralegal, who did not even bother to consider the chilling effect and absurd overreach of their demand. They probably used a form letter they reuse all the time, and did not take into account the fact that combining one with the other meant the net effect is that they are asking for the identity of everyone who's ever read anything I wrote about the TSA or my disabilities. The AUSA signed it but also failed to consider of those things. Despite https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/fr...e_26#rule_26_g

They of course didn't bother conferring with me at all before sending this demand. If they had, maybe we'd have been able to agree on a more sensible request. But they've shown no interest in cooperating, though that's legally required of them.
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Old May 18, 2018 | 3:05 pm
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Originally Posted by saizai
If you don't care whether the TSA gets your name, address, phone, posting history, private messages with me, etc etc., fine. So noted.
All of my interaction with you has been posted on flyertalk, and I'm sure the TSA has accounts to monitor that.

However, if they want information like my real name, address, phone, etc. I'll sell it to you for $50,000. (That ought to start the "unreasonable costs" meter.)
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Old May 18, 2018 | 3:54 pm
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Originally Posted by sethb
All of my interaction with you has been posted on flyertalk, and I'm sure the TSA has accounts to monitor that.

However, if they want information like my real name, address, phone, etc. I'll sell it to you for $50,000. (That ought to start the "unreasonable costs" meter.)
I am not required to take any affirmative action to acquire information that is not already available to me.
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Old May 27, 2018 | 10:33 am
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Exclamation Opinion issued in my FOIA case

D.D.C issued an opinion in my FOIA case v TSA. I won some, TSA won some, and some is deferred until later.

I posted analysis on my Google+, including a list of the holdings, take-aways for FOIA, broader impact on availability of electronic records, how to help, etc.
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