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tanja Sep 24, 2015 2:34 pm

Ha Ha and HA. I dont like pizza at all. YES I know it is weird. But the truth. Plus i am over 60 so they would never be intresseted in me. SMILE

Boggie Dog Sep 24, 2015 4:44 pm


Originally Posted by tanja (Post 25473807)
Ha Ha and HA. I dont like pizza at all. YES I know it is weird. But the truth. Plus i am over 60 so they would never be intresseted in me. SMILE

Over 60 seems to be the sweet spot for TSA hires.

FliesWay2Much Sep 25, 2015 4:35 am


Originally Posted by chollie (Post 25473600)
What did it say - 'would you like a job hosing others?'

Here they are, courtesy of WTOP:

http://media.dev-cms.com/wtop/19/1900/190021.jpg

http://media.dev-cms.com/wtop/19/1900/190024.jpg

Of course, the TSA Spokeshole in place back then had a lame explanation:


“TSA routinely advertises for job openings through a variety of avenues,” a spokesman said in e-mail, “ranging from traditional print advertisements to more creative ways to reach a wide audience.”

kmersh Sep 25, 2015 8:55 am

I have zero understanding of the security business, (truth be told) I know what my brain says, but whether that translates into how the security business should operate, I have no idea.

Having said that, it would seem to my non-security business brain that pizza box advertisements recruiting any old "joe/jane" would not be sufficient to bring in the type of applicant that is needed to preform security duties, but I do not work in the security business and do not profess to understand the needs of it.

One of my professor's in Medical School once said that some of what we (Physician's) will do is See One, Do One, Teach One and to some degree that is true (obviously it is way more than ONE, but the saying does hold truth). There is lots of knowledge required, there is lots of training required, but much of what of I do is wrought process and while you could not substitute any old person to do my job, some parts could be done by almost anybody if they receive the proper training.

To be very clear, I am not excusing TSA by any means, especially as to my brain I would not think that any old person is fit to the job, but maybe in TSA HQ's mind if there is a wrought process, than as long as the person is capable of performing the process, they can be TRAINED to do it.

I know that the Paramedic I am friendly with who moonlights as a TSA Employee Part-Time says that much focus is on training on HOW to do something, not WHY they do something.

Hence maybe TSA HQ's theory is if we have a process, than it can be trained to be performed by any old "joe/jane" and thus advertising for part-time employee on a pizza box makes sense as it has a wide audience? Again, it is not excuse and I said a few times I would think that security would require a specific type of applicant and not just any old person.

I realize I have gotten way off-topic here, but just thinking out loud.

chollie Sep 25, 2015 9:15 am

Just playing devil's advocate here....you get all kinds at a gas station - doctors, bums, politicians, mothers, fast food workers, etc. From that standpoint, a gas station is a reasonable place to toss a very very wide net.

The hiring process is supposed to winnow out the unsuitable candidates - throwing such a wide net, inevitably many will be unqualified.

But seriously....what type of candidate do you hope to attract when you tempt them with 'xray vision'? Are you looking for mature, seasoned security professionals, competent newbies - or peeping tom clowns who are itching to be authorized to stick their noses and hands into strangers' bags and pants and crotches?

What would your reaction be to an ad for licensed health care professionals that dangled 'xray vision' as a perk of the job?

FliesWay2Much Sep 25, 2015 9:41 am


Originally Posted by chollie (Post 25477146)
Just playing devil's advocate here....you get all kinds at a gas station - doctors, bums, politicians, mothers, fast food workers, etc. From that standpoint, a gas station is a reasonable place to toss a very very wide net.

The hiring process is supposed to winnow out the unsuitable candidates - throwing such a wide net, inevitably many will be unqualified.

But seriously....what type of candidate do you hope to attract when you tempt them with 'xray vision'? Are you looking for mature, seasoned security professionals, competent newbies - or peeping tom clowns who are itching to be authorized to stick their noses and hands into strangers' bags and pants and crotches?

What would your reaction be to an ad for licensed health care professionals that dangled 'xray vision' as a perk of the job?

Face it -- the only TSA job requirement is a pulse, which I'm sure is waiverable.

WillCAD Sep 25, 2015 9:59 am


Originally Posted by chollie (Post 25477146)
Just playing devil's advocate here....you get all kinds at a gas station - doctors, bums, politicians, mothers, fast food workers, etc. From that standpoint, a gas station is a reasonable place to toss a very very wide net.

The hiring process is supposed to winnow out the unsuitable candidates - throwing such a wide net, inevitably many will be unqualified.

But seriously....what type of candidate do you hope to attract when you tempt them with 'xray vision'? Are you looking for mature, seasoned security professionals, competent newbies - or peeping tom clowns who are itching to be authorized to stick their noses and hands into strangers' bags and pants and crotches?

What would your reaction be to an ad for licensed health care professionals that dangled 'xray vision' as a perk of the job?

But Chollie, that's just TSA's attempt to keep thing light-hearted and fun! It's an agency full of joking laughing, smiling, happy people! :D

Boggie Dog Sep 25, 2015 10:49 am


Originally Posted by WillCAD (Post 25477403)
But Chollie, that's just TSA's attempt to keep thing light-hearted and fun! It's an agency full of joking laughing, smiling, happy people! :D

As a passenger I'm not particularly damn happy with TSA.

Boggie Dog Sep 25, 2015 10:55 am


Originally Posted by kmersh (Post 25477054)
I have zero understanding of the security business, (truth be told) I know what my brain says, but whether that translates into how the security business should operate, I have no idea.

Having said that, it would seem to my non-security business brain that pizza box advertisements recruiting any old "joe/jane" would not be sufficient to bring in the type of applicant that is needed to preform security duties, but I do not work in the security business and do not profess to understand the needs of it.

One of my professor's in Medical School once said that some of what we (Physician's) will do is See One, Do One, Teach One and to some degree that is true (obviously it is way more than ONE, but the saying does hold truth). There is lots of knowledge required, there is lots of training required, but much of what of I do is wrought process and while you could not substitute any old person to do my job, some parts could be done by almost anybody if they receive the proper training.

To be very clear, I am not excusing TSA by any means, especially as to my brain I would not think that any old person is fit to the job, but maybe in TSA HQ's mind if there is a wrought process, than as long as the person is capable of performing the process, they can be TRAINED to do it.

I know that the Paramedic I am friendly with who moonlights as a TSA Employee Part-Time says that much focus is on training on HOW to do something, not WHY they do something.

Hence maybe TSA HQ's theory is if we have a process, than it can be trained to be performed by any old "joe/jane" and thus advertising for part-time employee on a pizza box makes sense as it has a wide audience? Again, it is not excuse and I said a few times I would think that security would require a specific type of applicant and not just any old person.

I realize I have gotten way off-topic here, but just thinking out loud.

The requirements to be a TSA screener are pretty low.

https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/416690200


Job Title:Transportation Security Officer (TSO)

KEY REQUIREMENTS

Be a U.S. Citizen or U.S. National at time of application submission
Be at least 18 years of age at time of application submission
Pass a Drug Screening and Medical Evaluation
Pass a background investigation including a credit and criminal check
No default on $7,500 or more in delinquent debt (but for some bankruptcies)
Selective Service registration required

QUALIFICATIONS REQUIRED:

Applicants must meet these qualifications in order to be further evaluated in the TSO hiring process:

Have a high school diploma or General Educational Development (GED) credential OR at least one year of full-time work experience in the security industry, aviation screening, or as an X-ray technician

Be proficient in the English language (i.e., able to read, write, speak, and comprehend)

mikeef Sep 25, 2015 12:58 pm


Originally Posted by chollie (Post 25477146)
Just playing devil's advocate here....you get all kinds at a gas station - doctors, bums, politicians, mothers, fast food workers, etc. From that standpoint, a gas station is a reasonable place to toss a very very wide net.

The hiring process is supposed to winnow out the unsuitable candidates - throwing such a wide net, inevitably many will be unqualified.

But seriously....what type of candidate do you hope to attract when you tempt them with 'xray vision'? Are you looking for mature, seasoned security professionals, competent newbies - or peeping tom clowns who are itching to be authorized to stick their noses and hands into strangers' bags and pants and crotches?

What would your reaction be to an ad for licensed health care professionals that dangled 'xray vision' as a perk of the job?

I thought you were joking about the x-ray vision, then I went back and re-read the pizza box (I bet that's the first time that sentence has ever been uttered.). That is awful, particularly given the public's perception of the TSA. Next time, they should just write "See naked people!"

Mike

Boggie Dog Sep 25, 2015 1:10 pm


Originally Posted by mikeef (Post 25478216)
I thought you were joking about the x-ray vision, then I went back and re-read the pizza box (I bet that's the first time that sentence has ever been uttered.). That is awful, particularly given the public's perception of the TSA. Next time, they should just write "See naked people!"

Mike

It was certainly implied.

sethb Sep 28, 2015 6:21 am


Originally Posted by FliesWay2Much (Post 25432356)
Sorry - Anyone wearing a TSA fake cop uniform is guilty by association of rubbing our precious Constitution in our noses. They and their civilian-clothed coworkers deserve our contempt. You've got to kill this cancer that is the TSA from the bottom up, one clerk at a time.

No, from the top down. The low-level incompetents are easily replaced, and won't learn. Throw a few of the criminals at the top in prison and see what happens.

sethb Sep 28, 2015 6:26 am


Originally Posted by DaveBlaine (Post 25435649)
Would saying "pseudo-cop uniforms and pseudo-cop tin badges" show support or contempt for the TSA?

Just saying.

It's politer than they deserve, so I'd say "support".

sethb Sep 28, 2015 6:36 am


Originally Posted by gsoltso (Post 25462775)
The way the machine is currently deployed, you would not be facing the operator of the machine, so based simply upon physical positioning, you would indeed be flipping off an inanimate object.

I'd be flipping off whoever is looking at the scan, wherever he is.

But since my doctor has told me not to undergo the risk of those cancer machines, that isn't going to happen.

MaxBuck Sep 28, 2015 6:44 am


Originally Posted by sethb (Post 25488096)
... my doctor has told me not to undergo the risk of those cancer machines ...

By "my doctor," I assume you're talking chiropractor.


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