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Joking about not letting some item or person through security is no joke, nor is it the behavior of a professional.
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Originally Posted by DaveBlaine
(Post 25433351)
Another quote for you. My original post in this thread:
"I think this is a great post to show that they are people too. They're just like you and me. They have feelings and families and they are just there to make air travel safer." But of course you know that. You jumped right on it to bash the TSA.
Originally Posted by GUWonder
TSA employees are just there to make air travel safer? That's funny, in more than one way. I would have thought that many are there because they fancy being on the federal dole/payroll. If not, some seem to like the pseudo-cop uniforms and pseudo-cop tin badges and play "respect my authorita!". Ain't that funny.
People are people, but that doesn't put them off limits for being subject to due criticism or praise -- not that there is much to praise about the TSA other that it is to be praised for becoming as large and expensive as it has become without any evidence of having made air travel safer in any statistically significant way. |
Originally Posted by jkhuggins
(Post 25433436)
The problem with praising "light-hearted TSA interactions" is that there's an unequal power distribution at a checkpoint --- all in the passengers disfavor.
A TSA screener makes a joke about "I can't let this through", and (s)he is "just" making a joke. A passenger makes a joke about "There's a bomb in that bag", and the passenger is probably going to have a very bad day at the hands of the TSA (and possibly local law enforcement). The few TSOs who frequent this forum --- or jump into the waters from time to time --- often claim that it's easy to get through a checkpoint if you just follow the TSO's directions. Fine --- but then they shouldn't confuse matters by joking about those directions, or deadpanning jokes that give the impression that the passenger is about to lose their favorite T-shirt or laptop computer or whatever. It is grossly unfair to tease a passenger when they can't respond in kind, out of fear of serious retaliation. Grumpy? Sure. But that's the environment that TSA has chosen to create at the checkpoint. Keep your head down, say as little as possible, move along like good little sheep. That's what I do. I don't like it, but it's better than the alternative. |
Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 25435499)
Bash the TSA? Here's the post where I jumped right on it ("it" being your whole post and not just your snippet from within your post):
You can take that however you wish; but if you think that is bashing the TSA, then it seems to me like people imagine bashing where there isn't. Just saying. Just saying. |
Originally Posted by DaveBlaine
(Post 25435649)
Would saying "pseudo-cop uniforms and pseudo-cop tin badges" show support or contempt for the TSA?
Just saying. |
Originally Posted by DaveBlaine
(Post 25429102)
and they are just there to make air travel safer.
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Flying out of CWA (Central Wisconsin Airport) a few years ago with a couple of clients. One of the clients was proudly wearing a Denver Broncos jacket, and as we approached TSA the employee started putting on very long latex gloves and suggested a full cavity search for the Broncos fan. It was obviously just a joke and we all got a good laugh out of it.
Note to self, don't wear anything but Packers clothing when in Wisconsin.:) |
We fly enough out of SAT, which is a relatively small airport, that we recognize a number of the TSA folks and vice versa. They often ask "On the road again? Where to this time?" in a lighthearted rather than official way. They also know we are, or were since I'm now retired, Federal employees and say things to each other and us about us being "one of them". Not that I intend to have any of them over for a pool party but it makes the security hassle a little less onerous if we all can at least smile a bit and be civil.
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I went through CAE on the early DL flight about a month ago. TSA couldn't have been friendlier or nicer....jovial mood, asked me about being in the Air Force (used my ID as ID, LOL), how were things with all the cutbacks...
I flew through ORD about six months ago coming back from the UK and TSA there was equally friendly. There was one moat dragon but I ignored him (as did just about everyone else). I asked to speak to the supervisor and complimented her on the behavior and efficiency of the other 99% of her folks, but did point out that the yelling of the rules only annoys people, can come across as demeaning - and might actually scare those unfamiliar with the process. A little while later while on the secure side, I walked back by TSA en route to Starbucks (I know, I know) and the moat dragon was nowhere to be found. Good for her. Some of these folks are doing their job without being on power trips. Some folks just want to earn a living with somewhat secure employment and decent health insurance. I can't fault anyone for that. |
Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
(Post 25434792)
Joking about not letting some item or person through security is no joke, nor is it the behavior of a professional.
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Originally Posted by COSPILOT
(Post 25439594)
Flying out of CWA (Central Wisconsin Airport) a few years ago with a couple of clients. One of the clients was proudly wearing a Denver Broncos jacket, and as we approached TSA the employee started putting on very long latex gloves and suggested a full cavity search for the Broncos fan. It was obviously just a joke and we all got a good laugh out of it.
Note to self, don't wear anything but Packers clothing when in Wisconsin.:) The TSA personnel at CWA seem to be a pretty friendly lot. It's one of my more frequented TSA stations where I've never observed a bad attitude. I think that has more to do with the region and with the small, more rural airports having TSA screeners who know they are often no more than one or two degrees removed from social connections with the passengers outside of the airport too. But that social proximity isn't a requirement for TSA employees to not have a bad attitude toward passengers. I've seen lots of rather friendly TSA screeners at various Midwest and Pacifc Northwest airports, large and small. But between the bad attitude screeners and bad TSA policies, passengers will give the TSA all the criticism which the TSA deserves. |
TSA and its employees don't get near the amount of criticism that they truly deserve.
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 25435792)
It would characterize the uniform and badges as they are: pseudo-cop uniforms and pseudo-cop tin badges.
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Originally Posted by MaxBuck
(Post 25441410)
Evidently TSA agents are more likely to have a sense of humor than FF posters ...
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