Bumped from my seat by "The US Government"
May 19, 2015, 7:20 am
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[I'm Executive Platinum on AA; if I'm in intl. business class, its only via an upgrade using SWUs (system wide upgrade).
I try to sit in window seats only--I like to look out the window
, so FAM issues would not affect me.]
When airlines move pax to accommodate FAMs, do they first check who they are moving? A full fare bc ($8000+) on a fully refundable ticket might just cancel, demand a refund and go to another airline (who would be happy to take his money
).
I try to sit in window seats only--I like to look out the window
, so FAM issues would not affect me.]When airlines move pax to accommodate FAMs, do they first check who they are moving? A full fare bc ($8000+) on a fully refundable ticket might just cancel, demand a refund and go to another airline (who would be happy to take his money
).
May 19, 2015, 9:48 am
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May 19, 2015, 2:31 pm
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FAMs, not legally armed and on-duty unless the flag carrier's home country authorizes it.
Various other countries -- some in the OECD and some not -- have their own version of in-flight armed guards doing FAM-like duty for passenger flights.
Various other countries -- some in the OECD and some not -- have their own version of in-flight armed guards doing FAM-like duty for passenger flights.
May 19, 2015, 2:42 pm
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[I'm Executive Platinum on AA; if I'm in intl. business class, its only via an upgrade using SWUs (system wide upgrade).
I try to sit in window seats only--I like to look out the window, so FAM issues would not affect me.]
When airlines move pax to accommodate FAMs, do they first check who they are moving? A full fare bc ($8000+) on a fully refundable ticket might just cancel, demand a refund and go to another airline (who would be happy to take his money).
I try to sit in window seats only--I like to look out the window
, so FAM issues would not affect me.]When airlines move pax to accommodate FAMs, do they first check who they are moving? A full fare bc ($8000+) on a fully refundable ticket might just cancel, demand a refund and go to another airline (who would be happy to take his money
).In my case, I'm pretty certain it's because of the seat I chose, 2A, which seems to be the favorite seat of FAMs. I'm also on an award flight so that might've had something to do with it, but more likely the 2A. They don't seem to like bulkheads, preferring more row 2 or 3, and they seem to like aisle seats on the left side of the aircraft.
May 19, 2015, 3:35 pm
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I've got an upcoming flight where I'm pretty sure I've been bumped by a FAM (and no other seat in the cabin to be assigned - 8 seat F cabin). I'm either getting the 75% EU downgrade compensation, or they are moving me to one of the later flights with F. Either way I'm happy.
In my case, I'm pretty certain it's because of the seat I chose, 2A, which seems to be the favorite seat of FAMs. I'm also on an award flight so that might've had something to do with it, but more likely the 2A. They don't seem to like bulkheads, preferring more row 2 or 3, and they seem to like aisle seats on the left side of the aircraft.
In my case, I'm pretty certain it's because of the seat I chose, 2A, which seems to be the favorite seat of FAMs. I'm also on an award flight so that might've had something to do with it, but more likely the 2A. They don't seem to like bulkheads, preferring more row 2 or 3, and they seem to like aisle seats on the left side of the aircraft.
May 19, 2015, 3:40 pm
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Who knows whether it's 75% of the miles of the entire ticket (including the trip there) or 75% of what the ticket would cost if I had paid cash. Either way I come out ahead in my mind. If they aren't willing to stand up to the US government about the stupidity of FAMs, and their ability to steal 1/8th of the seats in a cabin, then they should have to pay out.
May 19, 2015, 4:21 pm
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I've got an upcoming flight where I'm pretty sure I've been bumped by a FAM (and no other seat in the cabin to be assigned - 8 seat F cabin). I'm either getting the 75% EU downgrade compensation, or they are moving me to one of the later flights with F. Either way I'm happy.
In my case, I'm pretty certain it's because of the seat I chose, 2A, which seems to be the favorite seat of FAMs. I'm also on an award flight so that might've had something to do with it, but more likely the 2A. They don't seem to like bulkheads, preferring more row 2 or 3, and they seem to like aisle seats on the left side of the aircraft.
In my case, I'm pretty certain it's because of the seat I chose, 2A, which seems to be the favorite seat of FAMs. I'm also on an award flight so that might've had something to do with it, but more likely the 2A. They don't seem to like bulkheads, preferring more row 2 or 3, and they seem to like aisle seats on the left side of the aircraft.
May 19, 2015, 6:07 pm
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I've got an upcoming flight where I'm pretty sure I've been bumped by a FAM (and no other seat in the cabin to be assigned - 8 seat F cabin). I'm either getting the 75% EU downgrade compensation, or they are moving me to one of the later flights with F. Either way I'm happy.
In my case, I'm pretty certain it's because of the seat I chose, 2A, which seems to be the favorite seat of FAMs. I'm also on an award flight so that might've had something to do with it, but more likely the 2A. They don't seem to like bulkheads, preferring more row 2 or 3, and they seem to like aisle seats on the left side of the aircraft.
In my case, I'm pretty certain it's because of the seat I chose, 2A, which seems to be the favorite seat of FAMs. I'm also on an award flight so that might've had something to do with it, but more likely the 2A. They don't seem to like bulkheads, preferring more row 2 or 3, and they seem to like aisle seats on the left side of the aircraft.
May 19, 2015, 7:06 pm
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I've always wondered why no one has ever pointed out to them that their AM's tend to stick out like the proverbial. On a flight inside the US, and especially the US midwest or south, they might manage to not stand out too much, but on intl flights it's usually bleedingly obvious.
May 20, 2015, 10:13 pm
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What is "FAM"? http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fam?
or Federal Air Marshal?
or Federal Air Marshal?
May 21, 2015, 6:47 am
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What is "FAM"? http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fam?
or Federal Air Marshal?
or Federal Air Marshal?
May 21, 2015, 7:16 am
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) how to spot FAMs--wouldn't it be better for the FAM to have a uniform clearly identifying him?
May 21, 2015, 8:22 am
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