The end of carry on??
Dec 2, 2014, 1:55 pm
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Dec 2, 2014, 3:54 pm
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India had a carry-on/electronics ban applicable to commercial flights to/from SXR and IXJ during some years in the 1990s. I had to get special permission to get my laptop onto those flights and without that permission they were even trying to ban me and other people from carrying on even slippers in plastic shopping bags.
Dec 2, 2014, 4:31 pm
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Banning carry-ons would mean banning anything that might be needed during a layover, right? No purses, no diaper bags, no medications, no phones... Ridiculous--and unfortunately in keeping with TSA's theory that combating terror with reactionary item bans is somehow effective.
Dec 2, 2014, 5:16 pm
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Banning carry-ons would mean banning anything that might be needed during a layover, right? No purses, no diaper bags, no medications, no phones... Ridiculous--and unfortunately in keeping with TSA's theory that combating terror with reactionary item bans is somehow effective.
can you imagine lawsuits for valuables lost stolen from checked bags ? how do meds travel ?
Evrytime a new lock is designed crooks find a way to pick it. Similar situation with terrorists.
Dec 2, 2014, 5:34 pm
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Dec 2, 2014, 5:46 pm
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Dec 2, 2014, 8:03 pm
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:-: False Flag Alert :-:
Looks like the security boys need to show they're still relevant and come out with some "disturbing news".
I really need to open this tin-foil hat store...
And since when is Al Qaeda still around?
Looks like the security boys need to show they're still relevant and come out with some "disturbing news".
I really need to open this tin-foil hat store...
And since when is Al Qaeda still around?
Dec 2, 2014, 10:10 pm
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It also comes down to the elites and how much collective clout they wield.
IME, the biggest consistent 'should know better' carry-on abusers are elites - in the front cabin or in the back. They are not carrying on to save $ because elites don't pay that fee. They are carrying on because they want to be sure they arrive with their valuables, luggage unmolested.
It isn't the once-in-a-lifetime flyer who is arguing with the gate agent because their Tumi or Briggs carry-on won't fit in the sizer.
IME, the biggest consistent 'should know better' carry-on abusers are elites - in the front cabin or in the back. They are not carrying on to save $ because elites don't pay that fee. They are carrying on because they want to be sure they arrive with their valuables, luggage unmolested.
It isn't the once-in-a-lifetime flyer who is arguing with the gate agent because their Tumi or Briggs carry-on won't fit in the sizer.
The only abusers I see are the kettles who are trying to avoid a bag fee.
There was a short time period when electronics were banned in the cabin, but that policy was quickly reversed as it is not sustainable for business people, who are the most profitable customers.
Dec 2, 2014, 10:28 pm
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that you plan to ship with FedEx. Even if you paid extra for declared value,
FedEx will NOT pay out in the even of damage or loss, unless you can provide
detailed sales receipts or appraisals of the tools. The extra money that FedEx
charges you for declared value is NOT insurance.
Dec 3, 2014, 1:50 am
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Doubtful. Every elite I know has a standard 22" carryon (or smaller) OR checks bags because they just can't pack light for a longer trip.
The only abusers I see are the kettles who are trying to avoid a bag fee.
There was a short time period when electronics were banned in the cabin, but that policy was quickly reversed as it is not sustainable for business people, who are the most profitable customers.
The only abusers I see are the kettles who are trying to avoid a bag fee.
There was a short time period when electronics were banned in the cabin, but that policy was quickly reversed as it is not sustainable for business people, who are the most profitable customers.
When it comes to cabin baggage overload, I've seen FFP elites and premium cabin passengers be just as bad or worse than "kettles".
Dec 3, 2014, 5:14 am
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Please be sure to carry enough 3rd party insurance for the $20K of tools
that you plan to ship with FedEx. Even if you paid extra for declared value,
FedEx will NOT pay out in the even of damage or loss, unless you can provide
detailed sales receipts or appraisals of the tools. The extra money that FedEx
charges you for declared value is NOT insurance.
that you plan to ship with FedEx. Even if you paid extra for declared value,
FedEx will NOT pay out in the even of damage or loss, unless you can provide
detailed sales receipts or appraisals of the tools. The extra money that FedEx
charges you for declared value is NOT insurance.
Dec 3, 2014, 5:20 am
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Doubtful. Every elite I know has a standard 22" carryon (or smaller) OR checks bags because they just can't pack light for a longer trip.
The only abusers I see are the kettles who are trying to avoid a bag fee.
There was a short time period when electronics were banned in the cabin, but that policy was quickly reversed as it is not sustainable for business people, who are the most profitable customers.
The only abusers I see are the kettles who are trying to avoid a bag fee.
There was a short time period when electronics were banned in the cabin, but that policy was quickly reversed as it is not sustainable for business people, who are the most profitable customers.
Dec 3, 2014, 7:10 pm
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I remember flying from Geneva to Newark the day after the "Underwear Bomber."
You could use electronics in flight, but the entertainment system was shut off out of fear that you could see the moving map display. The little kid by the window asked if "that's the Statue of Liberty." "No!" I snapped to his dad, "You're not supposed to know that!"
But two hours prior to arrival, you could have nothing in your lap: no blankets, no pens, no books, no playing cards. You could only sit up and stare. It was unthinkably stupid. Then I got on a domestic transcon, where everything was allowed.
It was a showcase of the most paranoid, misguided, and useless tactics. Security had become a parody of itself.
You could use electronics in flight, but the entertainment system was shut off out of fear that you could see the moving map display. The little kid by the window asked if "that's the Statue of Liberty." "No!" I snapped to his dad, "You're not supposed to know that!"
But two hours prior to arrival, you could have nothing in your lap: no blankets, no pens, no books, no playing cards. You could only sit up and stare. It was unthinkably stupid. Then I got on a domestic transcon, where everything was allowed.
It was a showcase of the most paranoid, misguided, and useless tactics. Security had become a parody of itself.
Dec 6, 2014, 10:45 am
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I was in Canada at the time of the "underwear" bomber incident and flew back to the US a few days later. At that time Canada instigated a ban on carry-ons for flights from Canada to the US. I was only travelling with a carry on so I had to check that in. From what I recalled on the news only electronics and a coat/jacket was allowed.
The agent at the check in told me I had to also check in all my electronics - an expensive camera, cellphone etc. I refused. I was told I would be sent back when I got to the security line. Since I recalled what was in the news I decided to chance it and sure enough I was allowed through without any issues.
However many complied with the agent and allowed their electronics to be checked in and so when they saw me going through with my stuff loudly started complaining to the security guy - why is that guy going through with electronics. The security guy simply told them electronics was allowed.
When I landed in the US to my surprise everyone was travelling with carry-ons without any issues.
Stupid reaction from Canada on that occasion.
The agent at the check in told me I had to also check in all my electronics - an expensive camera, cellphone etc. I refused. I was told I would be sent back when I got to the security line. Since I recalled what was in the news I decided to chance it and sure enough I was allowed through without any issues.
However many complied with the agent and allowed their electronics to be checked in and so when they saw me going through with my stuff loudly started complaining to the security guy - why is that guy going through with electronics. The security guy simply told them electronics was allowed.
When I landed in the US to my surprise everyone was travelling with carry-ons without any issues.
Stupid reaction from Canada on that occasion.