Get Ready to Give Up Your Toothpaste
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I often cite toothpaste tube seizure as the epitome of idiocy of TSA Policy, especially when it's an old tube with little toothpaste content. Now it makes the news as their main concern. As if the bad guys aren't bright enough to switch the explosives to other containers. like shampoo or chapstick.
That's why the TSA ban is on all liquids, gels, and aerosols over 3.4oz. And why it extends to anything "gel-like" which "conforms to the shape of the container". Which explains why a cupcake in a jar is prohibited, while a cupcake in a paper cup is not, since the frosting of the jared pastry conforms to the shape of the container and MIGHT be explosives.
Somewhere in this mess, however, they completely forgot that they also have means at their disposal to determine whether the substance in the jar is plastic explosive dyed pink to look like frosting, or is just frosting - it's called ETD swabs. And while ETD's accuracy is carpy, to say the least (mostly due to inept operators causing rampant cross-contamination), it's still a tool available to them that they don't bother using much except to cause punitive delays.
The idea of any TSO using critical thinking to actually determine whether something IS or IS NOT an explosive, rather than just using their "discretion" to ban anything that MIGHT be an explosive, is completely foreign to the agency.
Let's see how the Russians handle this threat, not just at the airport, but all over the Olympic village and in the city of Sochi.
They won't even try. They'll just force you to voluntarily surrender it.
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I'm sure the TSA will say that their "research lab" has concluded that the amount of material in a 3.4 oz or less tube of toothpaste is not dangerous. They won't mention that people could carry several tubes in their baggie or several people could combine their tubes later.
Either that or they will limit people to one tube of toothpaste and completely ignore that dangerous materials can be packed in other containers.
Either that or they will limit people to one tube of toothpaste and completely ignore that dangerous materials can be packed in other containers.
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I'm sure the TSA will say that their "research lab" has concluded that the amount of material in a 3.4 oz or less tube of toothpaste is not dangerous. They won't mention that people could carry several tubes in their baggie or several people could combine their tubes later.
Either that or they will limit people to one tube of toothpaste and completely ignore that dangerous materials can be packed in other containers.
Either that or they will limit people to one tube of toothpaste and completely ignore that dangerous materials can be packed in other containers.
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*Unless they've come out with coconut or banana-flavoured toothpaste...
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Rep. King, you are no longer allowed to wear big boy pants.
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From the CNN link above:
What about a shampoo bottle that I've written "Toothpaste" on. Is that kay? What idiocy.
"My prediction is that they will give a direct order that they'll be removing toothpaste from passengers' hand-carried items" and possibly from checked luggage as well, said Glen Winn, a former security director at United and Continental airlines.
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TSA and other agencies pretending to provide security should be required to demonstrate that a specific object is a credible threat before they can steal, er confiscate, er require a passenger voluntarily surrender that specific object.
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The caveat to Rep. King's statement is the fact that no one has provided him w/an all expense paid trip to Sochi. However, should that happen he would, of course, brave this very serious threat in order to support the athletes blah, blah, blah
The caveat to Rep. King's statement is the fact that no one has provided him w/an all expense paid trip to Sochi. However, should that happen he would, of course, brave this very serious threat in order to support the athletes blah, blah, blah
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So TSA is going to scan all checked bags for tubes or creme containers, pull the bag, open it, take out all the tubes of toothpaste, cosmetics, sunscreen, etc., close the bag and send it on it's way? They'll be inspecting every single checked bag then as everyone checks toiletries and cosmetics. How long will that take?