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Old Jun 30, 2013 | 2:55 pm
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There is no smoking area inside any of the terminals in PHX. You have to go outside.

Originally Posted by FlyingUnderTheRadar
And they probably did not think to ask about a smoking area within the sterile area either.
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Old Jun 30, 2013 | 3:45 pm
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Maybe emailing a cell phone photo of needed documents would be a good idea too. Emailed photos would certainly be more portable for the young people in question once their batteries are recharged. If I was the parent overnighting the licenses to CA I would probably tuck a few nicotine patches into the envelope also. Too subtle?
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Old Jun 30, 2013 | 6:23 pm
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The best advice given above is for them to try another checkpoint. There are four checkpoints in Terminal 4 in PHX, at Gates A, B, C, & D, two each at either end of the concourse; all checkpoints eventually will connect up to any Southwest gate. TSA is consistently inconsistent even in the same terminal! But it sounds like it's too late for that now?

There are no designated smoking areas inside the sterile area in PHX, only outside the terminal. I can understand how the guys would have thought they'd have no problem going through security again after their smoke because it worked in PIT without ID. It's not unreasonable (just naive) to expect the policy to be the same at both airports...
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Old Jun 30, 2013 | 10:30 pm
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They may be 19, but they sure were acting like "kids"!
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Old Jun 30, 2013 | 11:11 pm
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Originally Posted by spd476
...It's not like the TDC is checking against the no fly list anyway.
With TSA Secure Flight, when the flight is booked, the name is checked against the no fly list. That is why the name on the boarding pass is supposed to match the name on the government issued identification which is presented to the TSA TDC.
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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 5:26 am
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Originally Posted by NextTrip
They may be 19, but they sure were acting like "kids"!
That's because at 19, they are still "kids."
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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 8:36 am
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If they complied with what the TSA wanted to the extent they could at the time of screening, then the failure to have ID should not be a fatal impediment to entering the sterile area. Otherwise that would be in contradiction to Gilmore v. Gonzales where the district court and Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals held there was no constitutional violation because air passengers could still travel without identification if they instead underwent the more stringent "secondary screening" search. More of this story needs to get out if it is in contradiction to Gilmore.
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