"I'm 87 years old!"
#16
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No way I would let anybody shout at her in what you describe.
You should have done better!
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#18
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When you do have an act of checkpoint bravery, post it here for all to see!
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#21
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This story isn't about harm she suffered; she's fine. It's about the harm the TSA tried to inflict.
#22
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For what it's worth. I think the emotions are running high in this thread simply because this type of story DOES get the blood boiling just a tad.
Apologies if I contributed to the heat. Correction... My apology for contributing to the heat.
PAX (in the old sense of the term)
Apologies if I contributed to the heat. Correction... My apology for contributing to the heat.
PAX (in the old sense of the term)
#23
IMO, I found your non-action deplorable. Had that been my mother, you can be damn sure she would not have taken off her shoes.
Why even post here if you didn't want honest opinions? Not ready for the criticism from submitting a public post?
No cookie for you.
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Indeed. You would do neither yourself or your mother any favors by getting into a shouting match or worse at the airport.
I suggest forwarding details to your federal legislative representatives and to media outlets, elderly advocate organizations, etc.
I suggest forwarding details to your federal legislative representatives and to media outlets, elderly advocate organizations, etc.
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Can we all take a moment to stop and relax? I know this type of situation gets everyone upset, as it should. However, at the end of the day, the OP needs to balance making a statement with protecting his family at that immediate point. The OP helps no one by shouting back at the TSA employees, or doing worse, at that time.
It's very easy to sit behind a keyboard and rail about what you'd do, or how the situation would be different if you were involved, but these situations require immediate action when one's emotions are heightened, which makes it more difficult to react in a manner that will:
I think GUWonder's post sums it up well.
It's very easy to sit behind a keyboard and rail about what you'd do, or how the situation would be different if you were involved, but these situations require immediate action when one's emotions are heightened, which makes it more difficult to react in a manner that will:
- Resolve the situation in a positive manner
- Avoid missing flights
- Allow you to remain calm and polite, so they have no leverage
I think GUWonder's post sums it up well.
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My mom is 85 and diabetic. Because of that she carries insulin, glucose
tablets and the nutritional drink called "Boost".
I advised her to tell them those items were medical necessities which
they truly are given her diabetes.
The TSA told her the bottles of Boost were not allowed. She simply said
she was diabetic and they were a medical necessity. TSA stood aside. :-)
tablets and the nutritional drink called "Boost".
I advised her to tell them those items were medical necessities which
they truly are given her diabetes.
The TSA told her the bottles of Boost were not allowed. She simply said
she was diabetic and they were a medical necessity. TSA stood aside. :-)
#28
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Why blame the victims and their loved-ones for a mess instigated by an assertive and offending TSA that is willing to escalate matters at the airport so as to hassle innocent people by making up stuff?
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OIG, representatives, media, etc. is the proper course now.
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TSA interactions I tend to set bar very low and have only had a couple experiences where I felt a need to escalate.
I immediately stop communication with the TSO and take out a paper and pen and write their name down, after screeening I'll discuss the situation with the supervisor and while doing so taking their name and notes (let's them know you are serious) I tell them I will be following up with the FSD and do so - it isn't an empty statement.
Its a lot of effort and it isn't for everyone but for me its something I feel is important to prevent abuse or overreach.
I immediately stop communication with the TSO and take out a paper and pen and write their name down, after screeening I'll discuss the situation with the supervisor and while doing so taking their name and notes (let's them know you are serious) I tell them I will be following up with the FSD and do so - it isn't an empty statement.
Its a lot of effort and it isn't for everyone but for me its something I feel is important to prevent abuse or overreach.