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Old May 8, 2013, 2:17 pm
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Originally Posted by D582
I can confirm this is working now. Flew USA to Canada on UA today and got the TSA PreCheck mark on my BP.
was it a connection or your original departure?

this w/b great if connecting flights that originate in the USA and finish in Canada are allowed in PRE

Bad news for Air Canada as well
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Old May 8, 2013, 2:39 pm
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Originally Posted by chx1975
Source?
1) Reading the English language.
2) Lex specialis derogat generali.
3) Common sense.

Not every word that comes out of an agency is carefully calibrated; when a general statement of eligibility is followed by a specific statement, you use the specific statement. That is common sense, even in Latin.

It seems people who wish they were eligible for PreCheck read ambiguities into the requirements that aren't there unless one strains. You are straining.

But you can write TSA and ask if that suits you.

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Old May 8, 2013, 3:32 pm
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Originally Posted by ScatterX
^

Unfortunately, the land of the free only comes to those that are brave. Last time I checked, an overwhelming majority of people WANT to sacrifice their freedom for the illusion of safety.
Land of the free? Where is this place?
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Old May 8, 2013, 6:07 pm
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Originally Posted by 14940674
They have not added a PreCheck lane at the midfield FIS. D582 was departing from IAD and flying to Canada, so he used the Main Terminal PreCheck checkpoint.
Correct

Originally Posted by bizorbetter
was it a connection or your original departure?

this w/b great if connecting flights that originate in the USA and finish in Canada are allowed in PRE

Bad news for Air Canada as well
It was an originating departure. However I would expect it to work on connections too based on the TSA press release.

I also think that AC will eventually support this if the TSA allows it.
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Old May 8, 2013, 7:34 pm
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Originally Posted by Ari
Pistole told NYT that Canada, EU and Australia were the only ones who agreed; I wonder if that is the "selected" part, or if it is more than those three.
Originally Posted by MegatopLover
I'm departing on Korean Air a week from today. If no one else reports between now and then, I'll post about the experience departing from the international terminal.
Korean Air flies from ATL to Canada, the EU and/or Australia?
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Old May 8, 2013, 7:39 pm
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I got PreCheck today at LAX on my way to Sydney, I was really surprised! Thanks TSA!
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Old May 8, 2013, 8:13 pm
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Funny how we can get excited by the fact that we now pay for, endure a personal interview and have background checks performed on us, just to feel privileged to get a level of screening service that's only slightly worse than what every Tom, Dick and Harry had, free of charge, off the bat, 15 years ago ... but this is a cool, positive step; I've always resented I couldn't TSA Pre when flying abroad
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Old May 8, 2013, 10:33 pm
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Originally Posted by Ari
Lex specialis derogat generali.
Lex specialis derogat legi generali.

However, the problem is the lack of "lex" and I hoped there's a specific rule set on the TSA site somewhere. Ah well.
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Old May 9, 2013, 6:23 am
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Originally Posted by Ari
Pistole told NYT that Canada, EU and Australia were the only ones who agreed; I wonder if that is the "selected" part, or if it is more than those three.
These are the only countries where you can connect from the US without going through screening.
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Old May 9, 2013, 6:41 am
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Originally Posted by gnaget
These are the only countries where you can connect from the US without going through screening.
For most US-originating scheduled passenger common carrier flights to the EU,
transit passengers from the US are re-screened at the EU airports.

Does KEF still re-screen all US-originating transit traffic? KEF is not in the EU.
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Old May 9, 2013, 6:55 am
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Originally Posted by RadioGirl
Korean Air flies from ATL to Canada, the EU and/or Australia?
No, wiseacre. I missed the part where TSA told the New York Times what was omitted from the official announcement, that right now this only works for Canada, the EU, and Australia. to TSA for making vacuous public announcements of benefits then telling the New York Times what the significant limitations on the benefit are. big for an otherwise ^ development.
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Old May 9, 2013, 9:20 am
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Originally Posted by MegatopLover
No, wiseacre. I missed the part where TSA told the New York Times what was omitted from the official announcement, that right now this only works for Canada, the EU, and Australia. to TSA for making vacuous public announcements of benefits then telling the New York Times what the significant limitations on the benefit are. big for an otherwise ^ development.
It seems to work for some non-EU parts of Europe too. Whether it is supposed to be enabled for travel there too and/or how long that lasts is yet to be seen.
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Old May 9, 2013, 11:47 am
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I flew from GVA to IAD on May 7, arrived in concourse C, and did customs, bag re-check, and TSA in what I believe is the "future concourse", taking AeroTrain all the way around to leave for ATL in concourse B.

The inbound international connecting TSA checkpoint did not have any PreCheck that I saw, as there weren't even any TDCs there, since being there meant you just arrived on an international flight.
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Old May 9, 2013, 6:23 pm
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Originally Posted by MegatopLover
No, wiseacre. I missed the part where TSA told the New York Times what was omitted from the official announcement, that right now this only works for Canada, the EU, and Australia. to TSA for making vacuous public announcements of benefits then telling the New York Times what the significant limitations on the benefit are. big for an otherwise ^ development.
Sorry, not trying to be a smart@ss but it is entirely typical of TSA to have a big headline suggesting a positive thing and then fine print with significant restrictions.

That said, I'm not in the camp of "expand PreCheck for int'l itineraries", I'm in the "the PreCheck experience should be the default for ALL airline passengers, regardless of nationality, itinerary or how much they've paid to the gov't for special treatment."
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Old May 10, 2013, 4:04 am
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Originally Posted by RadioGirl
I'm not in the camp of "expand PreCheck for int'l itineraries", I'm in the "the PreCheck experience should be the default for ALL airline passengers, regardless of nationality, itinerary or how much they've paid to the gov't for special treatment."
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I also find it depressing to see so many of us here excited because they got the "priviledge" of being treated like they should be. In doing so, we are loosing strength to fight against the ridiculous invasion and intrusion to which most are submitted.
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