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Originally Posted by herzmeh
(Post 20683873)
Seems that GE requirements are rather arbitrary...
I was denied, twice. I have a DUI misdemeanor conviction from 2007. I, of course, disclosed it. Here's the kicker (and the agent got a kick out of this too when his boss told him to deny me): CBP and the agency I work for are in the same department. I hold a valid security clearance. No disciplinary action was ever taken against me by the agency for the DUI conviction, never had my access even suspended for that, let alone lose the clearance. According to the agent, sure... in his logic, based on a simple fact that gov't would trust me with secrets I should've been granted GE membership. His supervisor disagreed. :) |
Originally Posted by Ari
(Post 20683941)
You should probably take this to the media if you can find a way; it would help expose the TT sham. "Trusted with national security secrets but still have to take shoes off for TSA", or something along those lines but more punchy would be a good title. Elliot would certainly write about it.
Going to the media will find your security clearance pulled fast, and possible job loss. |
Originally Posted by Ari
(Post 20683941)
You should probably take this to the media if you can find a way; it would help expose the TT sham. "Trusted with national security secrets but still have to take shoes off for TSA", or something along those lines but more punchy would be a good title. Elliot would certainly write about it.
Originally Posted by TomBrady
(Post 20684637)
Bad Advice.
Going to the media will find your security clearance pulled fast, and possible job loss. |
Originally Posted by TomBrady
(Post 20684637)
Bad Advice.
Going to the media will find your security clearance pulled fast, and possible job loss. Actually Ari gave great advice. And it has been done without the security clearances being pulled and it can be done pretty easily still. ;) It is a matter of finding a way. The issue is that having posted on FT about it, governmental administrative pulls for info about an FTer may be facilitated by IB. The security clearance pull concern this time may not necessarily change a thing. ;) |
When I seek entry into my country of citizenship, it is normally by holding my open passport up, the immigration officer nods, and I enter, often without breaking my stride. Clearing customs involves taking myself and my baggage down an appropriate lane. Neither process takes more than a couple of minutes.
I happen to have a security clearance, but it is the same treatment for other citizens. I do not see a fair reason for the US to do all this nonsense that I read. There might be some unfair reasons, like stiffing people for $100 or whatever for this expedited membership, or power tripping. Maybe it's just me. |
Originally Posted by stifle
(Post 20686001)
When I seek entry into my country of citizenship, it is normally by holding my open passport up, the immigration officer nods, and I enter, often without breaking my stride. Clearing customs involves taking myself and my baggage down an appropriate lane. Neither process takes more than a couple of minutes.
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 20685400)
There is no certainty in that.
Actually Ari gave great advice. And it has been done without the security clearances being pulled and it can be done pretty easily still. ;) It is a matter of finding a way. The issue is that having posted on FT about it, governmental administrative pulls for info about an FTer may be facilitated by IB. The security clearance pull concern this time may not necessarily change a thing. ;) Now if you have a very low clearance (like the kind all armed forces members recieve) you might be able to keep it. But any real clearance or important Government job, you will be ousted fast. |
Originally Posted by stifle
(Post 20686001)
I do not see a fair reason for the US to do all this nonsense that I read. There might be some unfair reasons, like stiffing people for $100 or whatever for this expedited membership, or power tripping. Maybe it's just me.
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Originally Posted by TomBrady
(Post 20687968)
Without getting into details, I know what I am talking about in this arena.
Now if you have a very low clearance (like the kind all armed forces members recieve) you might be able to keep it. But any real clearance or important Government job, you will be ousted fast. |
+1 - Presuming that we're talking about a significant clearance at TS or above, this is an easy way to lose that clearance and, if it's a job which requires the clearance, the job as well.
For what it's worth, a DUI conviction abroad would generally lead to the exclusion of a non-citizen from entry to the US and a USN to Canada as well as numerous other nations. |
Originally Posted by TomBrady
(Post 20687968)
Without getting into details, I know what I am talking about in this arena.
Now if you have a very low clearance (like the kind all armed forces members recieve) you might be able to keep it. But any real clearance or important Government job, you will be ousted fast. There are at least two people on FT who were at the European and Asian torture centers upon which the CIA relied during recent years and more than that number who were present at GTMO for secret hearings. Is that a "real" clearance? At least one of them went to the press on such matters and there is no reason to believe that person's employment relationship has been surrendered even as there is every reason to be aware that the person still has a "real" clearance. What matters is how it is done. ;) |
Originally Posted by Always Flyin
(Post 20687811)
Based on where you are located, one would assume you are British, and you certainly don't enter Britain any more by just holding up your passport and waltzing in. Haven't been able to do that for a long time.
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Originally Posted by stifle
(Post 20689083)
You assume wrongly.
I have entered Britain without opening my US passport to enter Britain. Just needed to crossover into the UK by surface transport from the ROI --literally waltzed over a couple of years ago without my passport being opened. The great thing about a CTA. |
Originally Posted by Often1
(Post 20688691)
+1 - Presuming that we're talking about a significant clearance at TS or above, this is an easy way to lose that clearance and, if it's a job which requires the clearance, the job as well.
For what it's worth, a DUI conviction abroad would generally lead to the exclusion of a non-citizen from entry to the US and a USN to Canada as well as numerous other nations. FB |
Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 20688965)
It matters how it is done, which is a point well covered in Ari's post.
Originally Posted by Firebug4
(Post 20689418)
A single, simple DUI conviction does not make a individual inadmissible to the United States. It does not lead to the individual being inadmissible generally or specifically for that matter.
Often1 is frequently a canary in a nonexistent mine; this has been a recurring feature. |
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