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Originally Posted by I_Can_Fly_US_Airways
(Post 20649297)
You have a criminal back ground & are complaining about NOT being let into the Trusted Traveler Program?
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I dont want to get into specifics of the OP's legal troubles. But having minor infractions do not automatically bar you from GE.
For Example, a Underage Drinking Citation, or a noise complaint. Hell, my friend got GE and he had a public urination arrest on his record. (tailgating was intense that day) But a long past of infractions or serious infractions, or not remembering your infractions will bar you from GE. So without knowing the details of the OP's past, we cant really speculate what the problem is. You have a criminal back ground & are complaining about NOT being let into the Trusted Traveler Program? |
Most of our Presidents would be denied if they applied.
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Originally Posted by nmstough
(Post 20630046)
No, absolutely no conviction. Unless there is an error in the record somewhere, which I cant see and was not indicated as a reason for denial. In fact since this is a valid reason for denial, it should have been indicated if true. But the only reason given was being "less than forthcoming". I have done a FBI background check for permanent resident applications, and there are no convictions on the record.
You may not have been convicted, but your MULTIPLE arrests seem to indicate a pattern. Also, convictions have a much higher threshold of guilt required than what CBP has to abide by. While I agree with Spiff in general about "open borders" for US citizens, I can't fault CBP for labeling you as not meeting their "trusted traveler" determination. |
Originally Posted by TomBrady
(Post 20645166)
I dis-agree, you don't need to know what they have on the screen. They ask a question, tell them the truth. Who cares what they have on the screen, your answers should not change regardless of whats on the screen or if you know in advance. |
Originally Posted by Maxwell Smart
(Post 20655800)
And what if there is information on that screen that is erroneous or incorrect?
Oops, I made a mistake. :D
Originally Posted by LAXative
(Post 20652465)
Where there's smoke....
You may not have been convicted, but your MULTIPLE arrests seem to indicate a pattern. Also, convictions have a much higher threshold of guilt required than what CBP has to abide by. While I agree with Spiff in general about "open borders" for US citizens, I can't fault CBP for labeling you as not meeting their "trusted traveler" determination. |
Originally Posted by Always Flyin
(Post 20636893)
You weren't arrested once.
You were arrested multiple time to the extent that you can't even recall all the arrests. Since the overwhelming super-majority of people will never be arrested, IMHO, someone with your colorful history most certainly should be denied participation in a trust based system. For those who claim every U.S. citizen should be given Global Entry, I live in the real world. In that world, that will never happen. If anyone suggested that it should, the response would be to cancel the program. I prefer disqualifying objectively suspect applicants. That's the real world.
Originally Posted by Spiff
(Post 20638242)
That's what you and some other people have decided to make your view of the so-called "real world" and in my opinion it's a rather un-American view.
CBP should be forced to make Global Entry the norm for all without biometrics or questioning. |
Thanks NRR
Originally Posted by ramsfan7784
(Post 20649730)
I was denied because of a Misdemeanor conviction for 6 years ago Im getting it expunged from my record. I have to pay 100$ again and reapply will they give me GE with it being expunged they already know it was there from my 1st interview? I have the document saying it was expunged.
Any advice from someone who has been through a similar situation would be great Thank in advance |
Two of my friends have got GE with MIP's (minors in possession)
One got a GE with a DUI. But he went through the ARD program first. I dont know if other states have ARD. IT pretty much clears your record of the infraction. |
Originally Posted by LAXative
(Post 20652465)
Also, convictions have a much higher threshold of guilt required than what CBP has to abide by.
But I agree with the comments about the OP: I don't think the issue was an arrest, but multiple arrests and it sounds like the charges on many of them were different, which is a major red flag. Somebody getting arrested and not convicted multiple times for "disturbing the peace" was probably committing acts of civil disobedience and I doubt would be flagged. But somebody with multiple arrests and multiple charges is a very different situation and I agree that "where there's smoke, there's fire" applies. I strongly suspect there's more to this story than we're being told here. |
Is the standard for Trusted Traveler lower than for Global Entry?
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Originally Posted by Deadtail
(Post 20675521)
Is the standard for Trusted Traveler lower than for Global Entry?
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 20676275)
Global Entry is a subset of DHS's "Trusted Traveler" nonsense.
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Originally Posted by Deadtail
(Post 20676667)
I have a colleague with multiple indiscretions though his early adulthood that he believes will prevent him from getting Global Entry. When we travel together he always gets the trusted traveler line, along with the rest of us. When we return from international trips together he is always last to the car because he doesn't have Global Entry. Does him qualifying for Trusted Traveler mean he would qualify for Global Entry?
There are people who get the PreCheck/PreCheck LLL treatment but do get rejected for being enabled for Global Entry. There are also people who rarely or never get the PreCheck LLL treatment yet are enabled for Global Entry. |
Seems that GE requirements are rather arbitrary...
I was denied, twice. I have a DUI misdemeanor conviction from 2007. I, of course, disclosed it. Here's the kicker (and the agent got a kick out of this too when his boss told him to deny me): CBP and the agency I work for are in the same department. I hold a valid security clearance. No disciplinary action was ever taken against me by the agency for the DUI conviction, never had my access even suspended for that, let alone lose the clearance. According to the agent, sure... in his logic, based on a simple fact that gov't would trust me with secrets I should've been granted GE membership. His supervisor disagreed. :) |
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