Showing claim checks at LGA
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It is highly unlikely that a thief would target the checked bag carousel for three reasons:
- The owner of any bag has a high probability of being in the area waiting for the bag increasing the chances significantly of getting caught.
- We have restrained from putting significant valuables in checked bags at the suggestion of TSA and the airlines. The odds of getting something valuable has decreased.
- The airline baggage handlers and the TSA have already gotten a shot at any good stuff long before it gets to its destination.
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It is highly unlikely that a thief would target the checked bag carousel for three reasons:
- The owner of any bag has a high probability of being in the area waiting for the bag increasing the chances significantly of getting caught.
- We have restrained from putting significant valuables in checked bags at the suggestion of TSA and the airlines. The odds of getting something valuable has decreased.
- The airline baggage handlers and the TSA have already gotten a shot at any good stuff long before it gets to its destination.
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Thirty-six hours later, and no-one has even attempted to answer my question (which was a repeat of the original question). Anyone want to try addressing the topic at hand?
Let me repeat the question ...
Let me repeat the question ...
Seems to me like most people here are missing the point of the original question.
Yes, we all understand why the OP was asked to produce his luggage receipts. Yes, we understand that the procedure is in place to try to reduce the incidence of lost/stolen luggage.
But the question was this: was the OP required to produce the information upon demand? By what authority? And upon whose demand?
After all ... if I buy myself a nice spiffy jacket and a shiny badge and walk into the LGA baggage claim area and start demanding that passengers produce the receipts for their bags, how is anyone suppose to know that I'm an @#$!hole just doing this for entertainment and not someone authorized to demand that information?
Yes, we all understand why the OP was asked to produce his luggage receipts. Yes, we understand that the procedure is in place to try to reduce the incidence of lost/stolen luggage.
But the question was this: was the OP required to produce the information upon demand? By what authority? And upon whose demand?
After all ... if I buy myself a nice spiffy jacket and a shiny badge and walk into the LGA baggage claim area and start demanding that passengers produce the receipts for their bags, how is anyone suppose to know that I'm an @#$!hole just doing this for entertainment and not someone authorized to demand that information?
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No, he is not required to show the receipt to anyone that is not an airline employee or otherwise authorized to ask, such as an LEO.
Having refused to show ID or the receipt, he should also not be surprised when an LEO is called because the Red Jacket person suspects that he is stealing luggage.
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Let me try.
No, he is not required to show the receipt to anyone that is not an airline employee or otherwise authorized to ask, such as an LEO.
Having refused to show ID or the receipt, he should also not be surprised when an LEO is called because the Red Jacket person suspects that he is stealing luggage.
No, he is not required to show the receipt to anyone that is not an airline employee or otherwise authorized to ask, such as an LEO.
Having refused to show ID or the receipt, he should also not be surprised when an LEO is called because the Red Jacket person suspects that he is stealing luggage.
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> It is highly unlikely that a thief would target the checked bag carousel for three reason
In ~30 years, I've had three folks try to walk-off with my bag(s). I am
convinced that one was a thief it ramp-rat attire. The other two were
(nutty) Clampetts (that fixated on the wrong bag - that did not even
vaguely resemble their bag).
Anybody can ask anyone for anything. Given that there was no signage
and it is not in the CoC, the OP is fine to just keep walking.
Sadly; he let the red coat bait him into unacceptable behavior.
Why are we paying for these red coats? It's the final act, in this episode
of security theater.
Whenever I find myself in this type of situation, I try to keep my yap shut
and my iPhone's video recorder running. An investigation is a LOT simpler
when there is both video and audio.
In ~30 years, I've had three folks try to walk-off with my bag(s). I am
convinced that one was a thief it ramp-rat attire. The other two were
(nutty) Clampetts (that fixated on the wrong bag - that did not even
vaguely resemble their bag).
Anybody can ask anyone for anything. Given that there was no signage
and it is not in the CoC, the OP is fine to just keep walking.
Sadly; he let the red coat bait him into unacceptable behavior.
Why are we paying for these red coats? It's the final act, in this episode
of security theater.
Whenever I find myself in this type of situation, I try to keep my yap shut
and my iPhone's video recorder running. An investigation is a LOT simpler
when there is both video and audio.
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Man arrested for allegedly stealing luggage from Delta (actually his second arrest for doing it)
Police bust 2 in airport baggage thefts
Baggage claim bandit steals 15K from airport terminal
Baggage theft suspects arrested
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The oriignial question was about the OP feeling he was assaulted by a LGA employee until they changed the title of the thread. At no point did they ask if they were required to show the claim checks, others asked that later in the thread. It was clearly answered in the first post, as they left without showing any ID or claim checks, so no, they were not required to show them.
Police arrest 4 adults, 2 children accused of stealing airport luggage
Man arrested for allegedly stealing luggage from Delta (actually his second arrest for doing it)
Police bust 2 in airport baggage thefts
Baggage claim bandit steals 15K from airport terminal
Baggage theft suspects arrested
Police arrest 4 adults, 2 children accused of stealing airport luggage
Man arrested for allegedly stealing luggage from Delta (actually his second arrest for doing it)
Police bust 2 in airport baggage thefts
Baggage claim bandit steals 15K from airport terminal
Baggage theft suspects arrested
Baggage theft is rare, Woodard said, adding that this is the first case in at least 10 years. As a result, it is not likely to trigger the need for changes in baggage claim security, he said.
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I take great care to get to the claim in a hurry so that I can see every bag come out. My bag is relatively easy to spot, even at a distance. It does not look like expensive luggage, even though it is a mid-range bag that sells for about $300. I get there early as I do not want someone walking off with it without me seeing it happen.
Even with this, I suspect that luggage is not a common target as a thief can not know which bags contain valuables. They may decide that if the luggage is expensive, it has expensive stuff, but that is not guaranteed. My bag costs more than what I carry in it. It becomes a high risk endeavor with a significant potential of little reward.
I liked it when they used to check the claims. I remember when they did it at MDW as they had little gates that I had to pass through to get out of the claim area and there would often be a line of people waiting for checks to get out. Oddly, I still keep my claim handy in case I need to show it, but it has been years since I did. Well, except when the airline "misdirects" it.