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TheRoadie Mar 9, 2012 10:42 am


Originally Posted by saulblum (Post 18163578)
It's another layer, of course.

Layer of what, is the question.

The Scheiß Lasagna of Security served up by the TSA, or course.

scolbath Mar 9, 2012 11:08 am

Name game at IAH Term C
 
They were asking everyone their name at IAH Terminal C. I refused. After the TDC got over her surprise, she called a supervisor, who looked at my ID and had the TDC mark my boarding pass.

Is there a new wave of this :mad::confused::eek:

MAMOHT Mar 9, 2012 11:39 am

3/8/12 AUS DL gates
 
Some TSA woman decided to play the name game. Told her to shovel it (flu on the road is not fun). Got SSSS and about 20 min of looking through all my stuff. Entertained myself by asking all kind of questions. The police guys seemed to be entertained too. They especially liked when I asked about how all that what they did to me helped to fix the original "shovel it" thing. The supervisor, apparently, was playing a parrot that day. All I got was:"We are following the procedure".

jtodd Mar 9, 2012 12:03 pm


Originally Posted by MAMOHT (Post 18167930)
Some TSA woman decided to play the name game. Told her to shovel it (flu on the road is not fun). Got SSSS and about 20 min of looking through all my stuff. Entertained myself by asking all kind of questions. The police guys seemed to be entertained too. They especially liked when I asked about how all that what they did to me helped to fix the original "shovel it" thing. The supervisor, apparently, was playing a parrot that day. All I got was:"We are following the procedure".

Ahhh, that procedure is rule 5b, subsection III, part 28:

"Annoy, harrass and threaten citizens!"

Global_Hi_Flyer Mar 9, 2012 12:23 pm


Originally Posted by MAMOHT (Post 18167930)
Some TSA woman decided to play the name game. Told her to shovel it (flu on the road is not fun). Got SSSS and about 20 min of looking through all my stuff. Entertained myself by asking all kind of questions. The police guys seemed to be entertained too. They especially liked when I asked about how all that what they did to me helped to fix the original "shovel it" thing. The supervisor, apparently, was playing a parrot that day. All I got was:"We are following the procedure".

Exactly what I got at AUS.

I now avoid AUS at all costs, even if I have to drive to DFW or SAT.

MAMOHT Mar 9, 2012 2:12 pm

I'd do it again. Except, next time when the TSO takes off with my driver license in his hand to talk to his supervisor I will try and get a police report on robbery attempt and possible identity theft.

knotyeagle Mar 9, 2012 3:41 pm


Originally Posted by MAMOHT (Post 18167930)
Some TSA woman decided to play the name game. Told her to shovel it (flu on the road is not fun). Got SSSS and about 20 min of looking through all my stuff. Entertained myself by asking all kind of questions. The police guys seemed to be entertained too. They especially liked when I asked about how all that what they did to me helped to fix the original "shovel it" thing. The supervisor, apparently, was playing a parrot that day. All I got was:"We are following the procedure".

Last 16 November at DAL I refused to state my name and the year I was born, the trained document checker summoned a supervisor who looked at my ID and put her initials on the boarding pass, so what the frack was accomplished?

On 23 January I was departing from HOU, the trained document checker asked for my name and I asked her am I required to in her administrative search for weapons/explosives/incendiaries? A supervisor was summoned who looked at my ID and put his initials on my boarding pass, so what the frack was accomplished?

On 23 February I was again departing DAL, lo & behold the transportation security manager was actually doing the "trained document checker" role. this time I was wearing headphones to my iPhone (of course while taking photos) and refused to state my name, security manager put his initials on my boarding pass and again what the frack was accomplished?

I give no quarter.

Global_Hi_Flyer Mar 9, 2012 4:26 pm


Originally Posted by knotyeagle (Post 18169536)
Last 16 November at DAL I refused to state my name and the year I was born, the trained document checker summoned a supervisor who looked at my ID and put her initials on the boarding pass, so what the frack was accomplished?

On 23 January I was departing from HOU, the trained document checker asked for my name and I asked her am I required to in her administrative search for weapons/explosives/incendiaries? A supervisor was summoned who looked at my ID and put his initials on my boarding pass, so what the frack was accomplished?

On 23 February I was again departing DAL, lo & behold the transportation security manager was actually doing the "trained document checker" role. this time I was wearing headphones to my iPhone (of course while taking photos) and refused to state my name, security manager put his initials on my boarding pass and again what the frack was accomplished?

I give no quarter.

Try that in AUS. It's the supervisors that run off with your ID and secretly confer with the checkpoint manager (who will refuse to talk to you). They also call the cops immediately: said cops say they have to obey TSA.

knotyeagle Mar 9, 2012 5:21 pm


Originally Posted by Global_Hi_Flyer (Post 18169772)
Try that in AUS. It's the supervisors that run off with your ID and secretly confer with the checkpoint manager (who will refuse to talk to you). They also call the cops immediately: said cops say they have to obey TSA.

I've done it at AUS and actually recorded the conversation with the lead screener.

timfountain Mar 29, 2012 3:57 pm

I thought the name game had finished - PDX didn't get the memo
 
Went through the CD side at PDX yesterday early (4:00AM) and got into a 'state your name game' with a granny TDC (she looked about 70 and 4'0", seriously). At that time of the morning I am really not in any mood for this kind of nonsense and just said "Good grief, what the heck is wrong with you? It's written right there, my name is not difficult and my BP matches my Passport card". She mumbled something about having to hear me say it, I just kept absolutely still and quiet and waited, maintaining eye contact the whole time. After about 10 seconds she handed my stuff back to me. Seriously, WTH is wrong with the TSA?

cestmoi123 Mar 29, 2012 5:48 pm

Got the same thing at IAH and AUS yesterday. Don't know what brought this on again. I told them my name was "Austin Powers, spelled c-e-s-t-m-o-i-1-2-3." Doc checker stared at me for a bit, then sent me on my way. Also, they were checking boarding passes AGAIN after the WTMD at IAH.

sbrower Mar 29, 2012 7:24 pm

The "asking name" thing is a penalty for airports which fail a test of their systems. That is why it comes and goes from various airports.

guflyer Apr 1, 2012 1:50 pm

Thank you very much for that response--I have never seen that information about it before. Do you know how long the penalty is in place for or the system for which failure brings about the say your name game?

asnovici Apr 1, 2012 2:22 pm

SFO is playing
 
The game is alive and well at SFO. Going through T3 "security" they asked for my name and I refused. She told me I won't fly today if I dont say my name. I said its Joe Smith spelled a-s-n-o-v-i-c-i, her response was thats not what she sees on the boarding pass. I said thats how I pronounce it. She called a supervisor, who was extremely polite but wouldn't budge. She offered a complaint form and filled it out herself with her badge number, name and location. At the end I had to pronounce my name otherwise I wouldn't fly. Im not going to send the complaint form because I don't feel anyone reads them or cares. Disgusting unamerican fashist organization.

tanja Apr 1, 2012 2:48 pm


Originally Posted by asnovici (Post 18315216)
The game is alive and well at SFO. Going through T3 "security" they asked for my name and I refused. She told me I won't fly today if I dont say my name. I said its Joe Smith spelled a-s-n-o-v-i-c-i, her response was thats not what she sees on the boarding pass. I said thats how I pronounce it. She called a supervisor, who was extremely polite but wouldn't budge. She offered a complaint form and filled it out herself with her badge number, name and location. At the end I had to pronounce my name otherwise I wouldn't fly. Im not going to send the complaint form because I don't feel anyone reads them or cares. Disgusting unamerican fashist organization.

It is scary.

What if you are foreigner and pronunce your name the way you are brought up with?


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