Till you put your money where your mouth is I call baloney, bologna and bull cookies. This question has been asked more then a few times for years but never answered. You are right most of your co-workers dont have any training but that doesnt stop them from incorrectly identify non WEI and saying they arent allowed, making rules up on medications, practicing medicine without a license and/or trying to stick there hand in the cookie jar and steal controlled substances for I have witnessed those attempts more then a few times.

The Platte of Ron is a sick collection of Ron that is not for the weak stomached person. Also shows his true colors and probably a good over under of the make up of the rest of TSA.

Every terrorist out there know that they don't need to commit another act like those committed on 9/11/2001, they have a perfect target ready in plain sight. One created by the TSA. The checkpoint and its long queues caused by pointless and unnecessary TSA "requirements".

I'm confused. TSORon, are you saying that the non-member of the TSA, i.e. the courts who have ruled on numerous occasions, have no idea what your job is and have no business telling you what it is?

What I read from janetdoe's post was that she was merely telling you what your job was according to the courts, not what she PERSONALLY thought your job was.

Are you not bound by the rule of law just like the rest of us?

And the easiest target of all: the trash barrel where the water bottles are thrown. One of those nasty water-bottle explosives dumped into the trash barrel would certainly kill many during peak travel time, and certainly not just a few TSA clerks.

Which begs the question, why isn't there a bomb disposal unit standing by to handle every water bottle thrown into the barrel?

All that proves is that they don't know how to do these things correctly; it doesn't prove they don't have training. They don't know what a NEXUS card is, but we know they have received training on identifying one.

Thank you.

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I'll always tell them too, "how can you identifying the bad stuff, if you can't even ID the Customs and Border Protection/DHS valid ID," Well, sir, they don't see that everyday, "Yeah, they don't see C4 everyday either, but they're supposed to ID those, right?"

Tell that to the TSA crew in Fayetteville, NC.

Wouldn't Nappy say, "The system worked,"

Every terrorist (and every common criminal for that matter) is well aware that if, for some reason, they want to get into the secure area of an airport to do something, all they have to do is to bribe a clerk or two. The track record is such that they go pretty cheap -- far less cash than Ron claims they don't look for.

All of the Cancer Boxes, ID checks, SPOTNik interrogations, Pre-Checks, or sexual assault resolution gropes don't matter a hill of beans.

One rationalization might be that the deterrent effect is so great, that the process of confiscating liquid containers makes SURE that no dangerous liquids are brought to the portal.

A TSA that cared about passengers would run a randomization process, so somebody who had to give up their water bottle could get a DIFFERENT one handed to them at the end of the screening process. Hard for the bad guys to game THAT system. Turn in a bottle, get a chit for a replacement from yesterday's bin.

What may have happened is that the TSA *wanted* bomb disposal presence at every portal to add to the theater effect, and they said: "You're kidding, right?"

Or else they thought one level deeper (I know, a rare event) and concluded that bomb disposal suits could *scare* the sheep in the queue and trigger them to ask the hard questions about the water carnival that everybody should be thinking.

TSORon is ex-Air Force? In that case, I think I know the answer to this question.

yeah, me too. But tsoron did around 15 years in the AF and got out. Something that is fairly rare and normally means he was basically forced out (we already know it wasn't medical) because he did not retire. He doesn't like to talk about it just say he has "training"...

this is relevant because he brings up prior training and often ask other posters about their jobs and experiances.... here and at a few other forums.

He often calls himself the TSOron the Muse of the Platte...

Not so rare anymore, unfortunately. But I digress....

The . . . um . . . "posters" . . . at TalkerFly routinely registers the names of real posters on FT and then write smarmy posts under them (I speak from experience). I don't often agree with TSORon, but I'm confident he did not write this post.

For the uninitiated, AFSC = Air Force Specialty Code, which (back then) was a 4-digit designator for one's career field. In the USAF, there were two distinct career fields primarily composed of guys who had flunked out of tech school. Anybody who has been in or around the USAF knows which ones (AFSCs) of which I refer.

Needless to say, the silence is deafening.