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Jun 19, 2012, 12:07 pm
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Jun 19, 2012, 3:34 pm
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Yes, she did charges with battery on those passengers. Yes, she did resisting arrest. She is not allow to come at work anymore. She can't be come at airport. They firing her. TSA would deserved her banned to come at airport property for the life.
Jun 19, 2012, 3:36 pm
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What passengers did she batter? And wasn't she ex-TSA long before this incident?
Jun 19, 2012, 8:13 pm
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ABCNews: Carol Price has already turned down three plea offers
There are some very interesting details in this report from ABCNews:
ABCNEWS:
Ex-TSA Agent in Pat-Down Duel
June 19, 2012
A short quote:
ABCNEWS:
Ex-TSA Agent in Pat-Down Duel
June 19, 2012
A short quote:
[Carol Price's lawyer, John Mills] says they've turned down all three plea offers and want to take the case to trial.
"She doesn't feel like she's done anything wrong, and I agree with her," said Mills. "We hope to get a not guilty verdict and have her named cleared."
According to Kate Hanni, director of FlyersRights.org, a non-profit airline consumer organization, there is a serious need to address airport security pat down protocol as passengers feel they are being violated.
"Most people don't know how to file a complaint or who we could complain to at the TSA," she said. "We really need to reevaluate who we're hiring and also what kind of training is being given to these TSA agents to bring some consistency to the travel process."
Hanni calls the security screening process at airports "the most degrading, undignified process," and attributes part of the problem to corruption throughout the TSA agency.
The article ends with this very tantalizing sentence:"She doesn't feel like she's done anything wrong, and I agree with her," said Mills. "We hope to get a not guilty verdict and have her named cleared."
According to Kate Hanni, director of FlyersRights.org, a non-profit airline consumer organization, there is a serious need to address airport security pat down protocol as passengers feel they are being violated.
"Most people don't know how to file a complaint or who we could complain to at the TSA," she said. "We really need to reevaluate who we're hiring and also what kind of training is being given to these TSA agents to bring some consistency to the travel process."
Hanni calls the security screening process at airports "the most degrading, undignified process," and attributes part of the problem to corruption throughout the TSA agency.
A TSA representative could not be reached for comment.
It is funny how TSA representatives were available to comment for the other news outlets who didn't bother to go get quotes from FlyerRights.org...
Jun 20, 2012, 7:31 am
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Jun 20, 2012, 10:33 am
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but evidently violence by clerks against passengers on a daily basis is perfectly fine. If that is assault, its assault both ways.
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Jun 20, 2012, 12:54 pm
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From the article cited above ... it sounds like TPTB have made three plea offers already and been turned down. About all that's left is to drop the charges entirely ...
Jun 20, 2012, 1:45 pm
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Jun 20, 2012, 1:49 pm
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I'm sure the TSA is hoping the courts make an example of out this woman and that is one possible outcome. If it does go to trial, will the TSA be forced to detail their SOP and not be able to hide behind saying it is SSI?
It will be interesting to see if the charges are dropped or if she is found not guilty. I think either one damages the TSA. I think it would validate the concerns a lot of us have on here about how it's ok for the TSA to touch someone in that manner, but it's assault if we touch the TSA in the same manner. I hope if this makes it to a jury, some jurors question that (some frequent flyers would help too) and hopefully all of the jurors aren't the "anything for safety" types that don't fly.
It will be interesting to see if the charges are dropped or if she is found not guilty. I think either one damages the TSA. I think it would validate the concerns a lot of us have on here about how it's ok for the TSA to touch someone in that manner, but it's assault if we touch the TSA in the same manner. I hope if this makes it to a jury, some jurors question that (some frequent flyers would help too) and hopefully all of the jurors aren't the "anything for safety" types that don't fly.
Jun 20, 2012, 1:53 pm
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This story was just on Fox News and they had video of both the screener's original pat down and what the woman was arrested for. The woman's lawyer was in studio discussing the case. Link to local news story was all could find.
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Jun 20, 2012, 2:14 pm
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That's not necessarily anything sinister. My understanding is that public prosecutions are pretty expensive (both in time and money), and the outcomes are always a bit uncertain. Plea bargains are offered routinely in many (most?) cases, simply to save resources for the more "important" cases.
But ... your interpretation is also plausible.
But ... your interpretation is also plausible.
Jun 20, 2012, 2:43 pm
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That's not necessarily anything sinister. My understanding is that public prosecutions are pretty expensive (both in time and money), and the outcomes are always a bit uncertain. Plea bargains are offered routinely in many (most?) cases, simply to save resources for the more "important" cases.
But ... your interpretation is also plausible.
But ... your interpretation is also plausible.
If it does go to court, TSA often tries to hide behind secrecy. On the other hand, any time that TSA has a procedure reviewed by a judge, there's a chance that all or part of the procedure can be unconstitutional or ruled that it exceeds the scope of an administrative search. NOT going before a judge when possible allows TSA to continue business as usual as while actions might be unconstitutional, they can continue do them until a judge tells them to knock it off.
Even if you don't buy the "evil" factor of TSA, having to go back and rewrite procedure and then communicate it and train screeners on it is expensive and time consuming. It's something that would take money away from buying other cool toys like nude scanners.
Jun 20, 2012, 4:40 pm
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I'm sure the TSA is hoping the courts make an example of out this woman and that is one possible outcome. If it does go to trial, will the TSA be forced to detail their SOP and not be able to hide behind saying it is SSI?
It will be interesting to see if the charges are dropped or if she is found not guilty. I think either one damages the TSA. I think it would validate the concerns a lot of us have on here about how it's ok for the TSA to touch someone in that manner, but it's assault if we touch the TSA in the same manner. I hope if this makes it to a jury, some jurors question that (some frequent flyers would help too) and hopefully all of the jurors aren't the "anything for safety" types that don't fly.
It will be interesting to see if the charges are dropped or if she is found not guilty. I think either one damages the TSA. I think it would validate the concerns a lot of us have on here about how it's ok for the TSA to touch someone in that manner, but it's assault if we touch the TSA in the same manner. I hope if this makes it to a jury, some jurors question that (some frequent flyers would help too) and hopefully all of the jurors aren't the "anything for safety" types that don't fly.