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Former TSO Arrested for Groping Supervisor @ RSW

Former TSO Arrested for Groping Supervisor @ RSW

Old Jun 19, 12, 8:29 am
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Former TSO Arrested for Groping Supervisor @ RSW

From the you can't make this stuff up department...


Former TSA worker, Carol Price, arrested at RSW for battery and resisting an officer. This, after she claims a TSA worker touched her inappropriately, prompting her to take matters in to her own hands by apparently groping a TSA supervisor.
http://www.fox4now.com/news/local/159512855.html
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Old Jun 19, 12, 8:34 am
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Originally Posted by tev9999 View Post
Former TSA worker, Carol Price, arrested at RSW for battery and resisting an officer.
Battery is understandable, but which "officer" is she accused of resisting?
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Old Jun 19, 12, 8:37 am
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So... They have video of this, but not when the TSA does something wrong.
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Old Jun 19, 12, 8:46 am
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So... They have video of this, but not when the TSA does something wrong.
Funny how that works.

A passenger steals another passenger's watch at the checkpoint, and there's video galore.

A TSA employee steals an iPad, and "there are no cameras," or "the video was too blurry to see anything."

Not to mention the TSA believes they can lie in response to FOIA requests, and encourages others to do the same.
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Old Jun 19, 12, 8:52 am
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Originally Posted by tev9999 View Post
From the you can't make this stuff up department...




http://www.fox4now.com/news/local/159512855.html
But groping isn't illegal....I'm sure he was just searching her for her own protection.
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Old Jun 19, 12, 8:55 am
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This is a great article since it has a TSA *Supervisor* claiming that a patdown was an assault:

Here's a short quote:
The video then shows [former TSA Employee Carol Price] speaking with TSA workers, one even gives her a hug. According to reports Price said: "She had gone through screening and was upset about the required pat down search. Price then approached the supervisor and then reached down to demonstrate and grabbed the supervisor's leg and crotch area as she claimed had happened to her."

The video clearly shows Price grabbing the supervisor. The supervisor states: "Price suddenly and aggressively grabbed my inner thigh and went up with her hands into my pubic bone."

Reports show the supervisor told Price not to touch her and: "Price then stated, ‘You used to be such a (expletive), you deserve it’."
[emphasis added]
Can anybody see any difference between what the former employee (charged with battery) did and what the uniformed TSO did to the former employee?

Also, check out the full title of Mike Mason's article:

Fox 4 Now:
TSA supervisor groped by passenger, caught on camera
Former TSA worker is the one arrested for battery

CREATED Jun. 18, 2012
UPDATED: Jun. 18, 2012


^ to Fox 4 Now for the "is the one arrested for battery" tone of the headline.
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Old Jun 19, 12, 8:59 am
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So...if TSA touches it, it's 'resistance' and it's OK, but if a pax touches it, it's a 'pubic bone' and it's not allowed.

OK...

Maybe this former TSOs training was...faulty. We've been assured here on this forum, by our 'good' TSOs (and others) that it is possible to follow the inner thigh to the point of 'resistance' without touching privates, but apparently this former TSO didn't get the memo...wonder how many 'pubic bones' she groped while she was still in uniform?
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Originally Posted by tev9999 View Post
From the you can't make this stuff up department...




http://www.fox4now.com/news/local/159512855.html

Look at 1:33 in the video: Fox 4 has the TSO stating that "she went up into my public bone" - so it's public, what is your complaint?

Sorry, could not help myself.

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Old Jun 19, 12, 9:41 am
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TSA: the gift that keeps on giving.
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TSA: the gift that keeps on giving.
Much like herpes.
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WTOP:Pax was bound for CLE to attend her brother's funeral, but taken to jail instead

Some more coverage:

WTOP:
Woman accused of groping TSA screener at airport (VIDEO)

Tuesday - 6/19/2012, 11:59am ET


A short quote:
"It was a customer complaint of an extremely inappropriate search," John D. Mills, Price's attorney, tells ABC7, who reports that Price got along with some, but not all, of her former coworkers at the airport.

Price was bound for Cleveland to attend her brother's funeral, but was removed from the flight and taken to jail.

In a statement to ABC7, a TSA spokesperson wrote, "The patdown was conducted correctly in accordance with our procedures. Violence against our officers who work every day to keep the traveling public safe is unacceptable."

and here is an article that quotes the attorney as saying that the patdown that passenger received was "personal", apparently retribution from her time as a TSA employee:

WTVN-HD:
Woman accused of groping TSA agent
Posted: Monday, June 18, 2012 7:38 PM EST
Updated: Monday, June 18, 2012 7:43 PM EST

"It was a customer complaint of an extremely inappropriate search," said Price's defense attorney John Mills.

Mills says another TSA agent first groped Price's genitals and breasts.

"She did not touch the supervisor as intrusively as she was touched," Mills said.

Price says the TSA agent wasn't following protocol - and she should know.

Price is a former TSA agent who worked at the airport until a few years ago. She got along with some, but not all of her co-workers, and says her pat down was personal.

"She's obviously been through training and knew this lady," Mills said.
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Old Jun 19, 12, 12:40 pm
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Originally Posted by RatherBeOnATrain View Post
and here is an article that quotes the attorney as saying that the patdown that passenger received was "personal", apparently retribution from her time as a TSA employee
I guess the whole "team spirit" thing goes right out the window when one leaves the Thousands Standing Around and goes for a real job, eh?
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Old Jun 19, 12, 12:40 pm
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If the passenger assaulted the supervisor with her demonstration of the procedure, how do they train the screeners to demonstrate they can do a patdown "correctly in accordance with procedures" without assaulting one another?

It's also fascinating to me that TSA has determined that an assault was not committed on Ms. Price based on a video and a convo with some screeners...but an assault on the supervisor may have to be demonstrated in a court of law.
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Old Jun 19, 12, 12:43 pm
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If the passenger assaulted the supervisor with her demonstration of the procedure, how do they train the screeners to demonstrate they can do a patdown "correctly in accordance with procedures" without assaulting one another?
Don't try to understand it. Just know that if a TSA employee does it, it's not a crime. If an actual law enforcement officer does it without reasonable suspicion, it's a crime. If a citizen does it, it's a crime.

And try not to let the cognitive dissonance required for that understanding make your brain explode. (Some people can actually work in that field, because they don't require cognitive dissonance to maintain - they lack cognition in the first place, so they can just do as they're told without worrying about the lack of logic involved.)
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Old Jun 19, 12, 12:59 pm
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"Price then stated, ‘You used to be such a (expletive), you deserve it’."
I expect Price's statement is mostly accurate. However, it probably would be more correct if "used to be" is replaced with "are" in this statement.
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