OP, again I ask, what are the new rules since you last posted a thread in January 2012 which would negatively impact your family?

The two 'new' rules would actually benefit them (Children not being required to remove shoes and most likely not being scanned, and those over 75 not being required to remove jackets and shoes)

I am certainly no TSA fan, but I do believe that in order for the anti-TSA message to be heard and received by the general population, we have a duty to provide accurate and factual information. While I may not agree with the principle of this change, it certainly isn't something which would worsen the experience of younger and older 'foreigners' at the checkpoint.

If there is a new TSA rule implemented since January 2012 which would negatively impact 'foreigners', then I would certainly appreciate if you could post it (especially as I have a trip through a US airport next week).

At CPH you can ask for a screener of your own gender, that's what their signs/video says. There is usually one of either gender on the line, one before the WTMD and one after. I've seen them swap around some, but not seen people ask for a different screener, so don't know if they can always just swap.

I've only had pat down from same-sex screener. They were not impolite as such, did not physically hurt me and I was dressed to inside-waistband check. However, they didn't like me almost turning around to watch my stuff... "We have video". Yeah, sure, are you gonna close down the airport why you find the person who ran off with my stuff? No, didn't think so. So how will the video help when stuff goes missing?

Anyway, at CHP they are pretty cool, not impolite, but not friendly. They have not ever hurt me, or gone to the resistance. Nor have I heard them yell. As airports go, not a bad place, I think - they also still regularly test the security wait and the postings are pretty accurate.

I do not worry about going through there, nor would I worry about taking family through there. When I took 17 yo school kids to the US last year, I did (big time) worry about security for the flight home, but other than a boy getting turned back to check his bag with a huge bottle of perfume for his mum, nothing happened at security. And yes, he had been told a million times :-)

DanishFlyer

I never said that where new rules.
I said they keep adding and changing. Depending what is goin on.
I am from LA. CA. So my airport is LAX.
They have gotten worse since Jan. 2012.
We all hear the stories from passengers.


And in fact I dont beleive ( I want to) that the new "rules" will benifit all travellers.

It depends on the screnner and /or airport.

We all know that TSA do what they want to. And if you question them you do get retalation.

At CHP they have always been friendly to me.
Even laughs at me since I dont understand danish at all. And I am swedish.
So we speaks english to each other.

I guess a lot of people dare to ask for a same sex screnner. People are just afraid to have a voice.

Like you say no yelling at all.

If possible, why not move back to Sweden yourself?
Get back your Swedish nationality if possible and move to a more decent country with a better lifestyle and living standard. Away from the troubles.
Certainly your family in US would also be entitled to Swedish residency because of you.

That should solve the issue. Forever.

Surely moving off topic here now, but unless you are familiar with Swedish immigration laws, don't be so sure.

In Denmark, for example, for immigration based on family ties, the rules in some cases (under 26 years of age, or under 26 as a citizen) requires that the combined ties are stronger to Denmark than to the foreign country. So if, as a family or independently, a couple lived in the US, and the spouse maybe does not speak (much) Danish, has never lived here etc, that means that that spouse will not have the right to move here based solely on marriage. Thankfully, this is being softened up some with interpretations and also dispensations, but still. Even legally, upping and moving "home" is not always an option.

DanishFlyer

And never returning to the USA is unpalatable because...?

I assume that's why TS&S was split into a Practical forum and a Policy Debate forum. Where it crosses the line between practical, debate and OMNI is left to the interpretation of the moderators.

While I'm not about to jump to the defense of the TSA, they do generally provide a more consistent experience than some of the airports I've visited overseas. This was theoretically the reason the agency was created in the first place, keeping in mind it was before the shoe carnival, TDC not recognizing valid IDs/playing the name game and era of dangerous water bottles and toothpaste.

Of course there are airports where unpublished 'policies' such as the name game or second boarding pass check occur, but you will likely have a far easier time getting your medical liquids through the line at a US airport than one overseas where the liquids restrictions are in place. In fact, Team SFO discovered that I had a water bottle that I had forgotten about in a side pouch of my bag. (Team SFO missed said water bottle earlier that week.) The TSO said unless it was medical I'd need to take it landside or discard it. I didn't try, but I'm 90% sure if I told her I have an occasional dihydrogen monoxide deficiency I would have been enjoying the bottle of water later that afternoon.

I am swedish citizent so are my grownup kids.I only really have 1 "kid" in US. The rest lives in Norway,Italy and Sweden.
I have thought about leaving sunny Ca. to the cold (in the winter)Sweden.

And as Danishflyer says swedish immigration laws are not that easy.

It is a long process. And during that time your partner cant be in Sweden.The process can take up to a year.

Judging from OP's previous posts, I would say she is just trying to ignite a new TSA-bashing debate. I myself am not a fan of the TSA and post-9/11 security, but I can recognise when such a dislike turns into an obsession. Sadly, a lot of TS&S folks are indeed obsessed with the TSA, and it makes this forum less and less useful.

Really? Perhaps my English is poor, but I suspect that is not the reason why we disagree on this point. You very clearly stated that there are new rules in your post I quote above. Again, what are the new rules to which you refer? I offered up two which would actually benefit your family situation.

Bumping up a previous thread would be one way to ask the same question over a period of time. But thanks to the OP for making my point for me, once again.

You should wear a hat that says "Praise the Lord, Let me say a prayer for you" nuff said! Maybe then, they'll think you will end up being over the top with religious talk or maybe they won't be religious and wouldn't talk to you at all!

Maybe new rules was not the words I should have used.

The way TSA acts should be the correct word. Sorry about that.

Obssesed! Not really.

I do have 6 kids on my own and 1 stepchild.All adults.
And the more that is read on internet the more they have backed out from coming here.

That does make me sad. But I do understand them. They protect their kids and them selves.

So obsssed. Not really the correct words. More concerned about wht is happening in and USA.

Thanks for skype.

That about kids having an easier time.
Great if they dont get groped. My handicapped grandson who cant walk would be a target for a grope and so on. He cant speak and is also deaf. And doesnt understand english at all.

Well I guess that most people on this forum are obssesed then.!

Maybe we are trying to geta real debate going on.

This is ridiculus.