Candy shuts down checkpoint
Dec 30, 2011, 6:02 pm
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No, I stand by my statement. flight operations refer solely to the motion of aircraft, not to what or who is on the aircraft. Moving a passenger from one flight to another when the departure time of neither flight is affected does not affect flight operations. Are you really claiming that if three passengers for a flight are in a single vehicle which has a flat tire and they have to be rebooked for a later flight that the flat has impacted "flight operations"?
Dec 30, 2011, 7:50 pm
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No, I stand by my statement. flight operations refer solely to the motion of aircraft, not to what or who is on the aircraft. Moving a passenger from one flight to another when the departure time of neither flight is affected does not affect flight operations. Are you really claiming that if three passengers for a flight are in a single vehicle which has a flat tire and they have to be rebooked for a later flight that the flat has impacted "flight operations"?
I understand that TSA is claiming that no flights were delayed or cancelled. That is very likely true in this case. If you want to limit your definition to this then that is perfectly alright but I am using a broader understanding of commercial passenger aircraft operations.
Dec 31, 2011, 6:14 am
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I don't want to keep beating a dead horse here, but the above is not at all true. Even leaving aside the issue of cargo, if there ends up with a situation where there are no passengers on a particular flight, the airline will more often than not have to operate the flight anyway to put the aircraft and crew in the proper position for a later flight.
Dec 31, 2011, 7:49 am
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Despite the various definitions of the FAA, the airlines and the TSA the flight operations some passengers may have been significantly disrupted. The actual number remains unknown and may be trivial.
Last edited by InkUnderNails; Dec 31, 2011 at 10:23 am Reason: To more closely match the reliable evidence.
Dec 31, 2011, 8:20 am
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The flights leaving after the American flight the woman was late for were very close to 1, so those people probably made their flights. To me it would seem that only one flight, the 12:35 American flight had a possibility of being affected, though again arriving at security a half hour before flight time is really pushing it.
Everything relating to people missing flights is related to the quote from one woman who was late anyways and relaying what the airline supposedly told her.
Nobody else has confirmed there was any delay.
Dec 31, 2011, 10:21 am
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Which flights and how many people? The only thing we know is a woman who showed up late missed her flight. The 12:05 flight already left when the terrorist candy was screened, and the next flight was the 12:35 American.
The flights leaving after the American flight the woman was late for were very close to 1, so those people probably made their flights. To me it would seem that only one flight, the 12:35 American flight had a possibility of being affected, though again arriving at security a half hour before flight time is really pushing it.
Everything relating to people missing flights is related to the quote from one woman who was late anyways and relaying what the airline supposedly told her.
Nobody else has confirmed there was any delay.
The flights leaving after the American flight the woman was late for were very close to 1, so those people probably made their flights. To me it would seem that only one flight, the 12:35 American flight had a possibility of being affected, though again arriving at security a half hour before flight time is really pushing it.
Everything relating to people missing flights is related to the quote from one woman who was late anyways and relaying what the airline supposedly told her.
Nobody else has confirmed there was any delay.
That does not relieve the TSA of an apparent overreaction in its procedure in this case.
As for the title of the thread, I am reminded each time I see it about a Candy I once met that could shut down more than a checkpoint, but that is a story best left untold.