Mr.Tea

Hello, I wasn't quite sure where to put this post so apologies if this is in the wrong section.

I travel quite a lot to the US to visit my girlfriend of 3 years. I was flagged entering the USA last summer and had a horrible little man "screen me". After over 2 hours of him interrogating me and going through all my personal things (phone and laptop included) I was allowed entry into the county.

I am due again to visit my girlfriend for around a month, possibly leaving next week. However I am again really concerned and worried that I'll be given the same treatment "by default" as I was flagged the last time I entered the county. The experience left me quite shaken up (though I didn't realize until thinking about it a few days later).

Part of my concern is that this time is that they may see myself as having insufficient intentions to return home due to my girlfriend living in the States and that fact that myself (and many others) were layed off in October.

However, I only have limited funds to stay in the US this time (around $1400) and hence I am genuinely not planning on staying longer than a month or so. It is my intention to apply for a Masters program which starts in Feb, or if I don't get in, September. Further I am planning on continuing my job search back here in the UK once I return, to help me get through my Masters.

Plus I do not want to jeopardize my chances of permanently immigrating into the United States in the next few years once I have finished my education at home.

Basically I know I am NOT intending to overstay in the US. But I'm afraid I'll get some border officer who is having a bad day and may be looking to poke holes in my logic, and hence not allow me into the country.

I basically have two questions; 1- Will I be automatically "screened" again because I was last time? and 2 - Any advice or tips on how I can effectively convey my genuine intention to return to the UK?

Thanks for reading.

Flahusky

For Question #1,While there is a 'list' you are probably not on it...

For Question #2, Show them a return ticket, print out the return boarding pass and toss it once you clear customs.

Of course that one CBP agent that senses your nervous may ask a few more questions and possibly ask to see the return ticket so be prepared.

flitcraft

I agree you are probably not on any list of 'people to be given a hard time.' Have your flight itinerary printed out to show you've paid for a round trip ticket. Show them in your passport your record of trips to the US, none of which you overstayed.

And finally, tell them what you'l be paying for your Master degree in the UK. Only an idiot would instead take a graduate degree in the US at many times the price!

Wally Bird

Do NOT mention that you have a US girlfriend; this is a well known "red flag" to CBP bulls. Use a generic visiting friends (plural) when asked.

henry999

Erm ... how is he going to do that, when the flight is a month in the future?!?

cheers,

Henry

ls17031

Oh sure, tell the guy who was already "interrogated" once to lie about a different story at primary this time. Yeah, that should work out well...

OP, for heaven's sake DO NOT start changing your story now, especially if you intend to one day apply for legal permanent resident status.


Cheers

Mr.Tea

First of all thank you all for the replies.

Yeah I really do not want to go down a route of embellishing the truth. I am sure from my past visits (especially the last one where the guy did a LOT of typing) that they'll know my deal anyway.

I always print out my itinerary and have it ready to hand to the officer with my passport. Every time they have asked to see one so I figured I'll do the same.

I know that by all accounts and on paper I should be fine, I'm just really dreading being pulled into a room and grilled by some control freak again.

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There is another issue that I am attempting to clear up today. I have NEVER overstayed in the US, and I have ALWAYS been out of the country by the date stamped in my passport.

However, in this last summer, I was due to leave on the 16th of August and my plane was curtailed in Phoenix Arizona meaning that I was going to miss my connecting flight back to the UK in PHL. The airline deemed that it was futile for me to make the trip to PHL, so they kindly sent me back and rebooked my entire itinerary (rather than send me to PHL and put me in a hotel).

I left the next day successfully on the 17th, the date that was stamped on my passport. I contacted the UK embassy when I got home and asked about it, and the man on the phone said I should be fine. But there was no way for him to "check" on any computer system to confirm this.


I am going to contact CBP when they open today to try and make sure I'm not flagged as an overstay. I have a nice letter from airline documenting the whole problem, as well as tickets the from both days on the airline. So I am hoping I will be ok.

Does anyone know if the number at the following link is the correct one for me to contact in this situation?

http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/toolbox/c...er_service.xml


Thank you all again.

User Name

You're right - lying would be bad, although common wisdom is to limit your answers to the questions you are specifically asked. A silly example is "Do you know what the time is?" to which the answer would be "yes" (assuming you did). It's a daft example but hopefully you get the drift.

You mentioned that your departure was delayed by a day last summer. On the assumption that you entered under the VWP and you still left within 90 days of arrival then there is nothing to worry about with this. Reply with more detail if my assumptions were incorrect.

The immigration officer will be able to see that you were sent to secondary last time, and - as this is common but nevertheless not the norm - I would day you have a slightly higher than average chance of having a repeat of the process. While it's worth noting that not everyone who works there is an arsehole, you would be best to prepare yourself for a visit but still hope that it won't happen.

Afterthought: you mentioned earlier that a lack of available funds could help as proof that your were not intending to overstay. I wouldn't bring this up in conversation unless asked specifically as this could backfire.

RichardKenner

It's quite possible that you will. Entering repeatedly to visit a girlfriend or boyfriend is probably the most flagged situation. All you can do is be prepared to show as many ties to the UK as possible. Unfortunately, because you have no job and aren't in school, that's going to be difficult and you should expect continuing hassles until you either have demonstrated sufficient history of entering and then leaving on time or you have those ties in the UK.

Wally Bird

Lie ? What lie ?

Unless the girl is the only person OP knows in the US, visiting friends is truthful.

And my advice stands for anyone else; "girlfriend" is a definite no-no carrying 'suspicious' connotations to the CBP.

Mr.Tea

The plot thickens. Thank god I haven't booked anything yet.

In the course of trying to find out who to contact regarding my concern about overstaying, I was looking at my passport and the past dates stamped within it. While bored waiting on hold to Direct Line, I decided to count the days between May 19th and August 17th (the dates stamped in my passport regarding my last trip in the summer).

It's 91 days.

I'm distraught right now as I fear I might just have screwed up any chances of seeing my girlfriend (and America) in the near future. I am positive I counted correctly when booking my flight, and that my original booking from May 19th to August 16th was 89 days.

Is there anything I can do about this? I don't even know who my first point of contact should be in my case. I have written to the US Embassy in London again. Is there anywhere else I should contact?

Thanks again for your replies.

cb1111

You could, of course, contact your nearest US consulate or embassy - or you could continue to seek advice from random people on the internet.

If you've done nothing wrong (and 91 days is perfectly fine as it was due to flight delays that you say are documented) and don't intend to do anything wrong, the callng the embassy shouldn't be a problem.

catocony

You should contact the closest US embassy/consulate and ask them. I don't think it's a big deal, but you never know. One question - I assume you turned in your I-94 tag when you checked in on your original flight? If so, did you get it back when the flight was canceled?

If you don't get a solid answer - or any answer at all - one thing you might do is route through Shannan or Dublin. You can go through US immigration/customs there, which is a heck of a lot closer than flying to the US only to run into an immigration hassle. If you get denied, at least you're pretty close to home when getting the bad news.

Mr.Tea

As stated, I already have.


I thought that the I-94W was paperless now? I didn't get any tag from the airline or customs to hold on to. I only ever had one back in 2009, a green thing they stapled into my passport (which was returned).

Please don't tell me there's something else I've not done properly...

User Name

In all fairness, "random" people off the internet are likely to give better information than the US consulate. The best approach is to make the people a bit less random by posting on a specialist immigration forum, which the OP has just done.