Another bad apple
#33
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How long will he continue to draw his TSA paycheck? How long before he is actually terminated? We taxpayers will be paying this scumbag while he's in jail awaiting trial. Can he be fired for being arrested, before he is convicted?
Probably not. Innocent until proven guilty. He'll most likely be put on administrative leave and we'll keep paying his salary.
Probably not. Innocent until proven guilty. He'll most likely be put on administrative leave and we'll keep paying his salary.
#34
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This shows why the TSA should not issue badges and "police-like" appearing uniforms.
Everybody here knows that you are more likely to die driving to the airport, struck by lightning, etc. than be killed in a terrorist attack. Somebody should come up the statistics that show how much more likely you will be sexually assaulted or have something stolen, etc. by a TSA employee than die in a terrorist attack. That would be fun to put on a t-shirt and wear to the airport.
Everybody here knows that you are more likely to die driving to the airport, struck by lightning, etc. than be killed in a terrorist attack. Somebody should come up the statistics that show how much more likely you will be sexually assaulted or have something stolen, etc. by a TSA employee than die in a terrorist attack. That would be fun to put on a t-shirt and wear to the airport.
#35
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Probably he can't be fired for being arrested, but I do believe he has an obligation to show up for work. Since he's presently incarcerated, that makes meeting a work obligation a tad difficult. I don't know a single employer that can't/won't dismiss an employee for not showing up for work. I don't know why the TSA management doesn't understand this. I'm pretty sure that this situation is not covered under the FMLA.
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Probably he can't be fired for being arrested, but I do believe he has an obligation to show up for work. Since he's presently incarcerated, that makes meeting a work obligation a tad difficult. I don't know a single employer that can't/won't dismiss an employee for not showing up for work. I don't know why the TSA management doesn't understand this. I'm pretty sure that this situation is not covered under the FMLA.
(Duly noted that even Global Entry can be revoked for this sort of thing....)
#37


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Forgive my inexperience, but I've never traveled outside the US - what do the screeners wear in other countries? What sort of uniforms? Badges? Nametags? Photo IDs? Etc.
I'd like to see TSOs universally decked out in polo shirts, with differing colors for TSO, LTSO, and STSO, with photo IDs prominently displayed on the left breast, and a larger pin-on nameplate on the right with name, rank and an employee ID number that can be used for filing compliments or complaints. AFSDs, FSDs, and other high-level executives could wear suits, but they'd still have to wear the ID prominently on the left breast and the nameplate on the right. People at car rental places have been wearing nameplates on blazers for decades; there is no reason why a high-ranking federal executive with the power to deny your right to unrestricted interstate travel without due process of law couldn't also wear his ID in a clear and consistent manner.
But the current faux police uniform and badge getup is what you get when you appoint a law enforcement professional with little or no security experience to head a security agency instead of a law enforcement agency.
Some people just can't tell the difference between screening, safety, security, screening, law enforcement, criminal investigation, and forced compliance with instructions; to Pistole (as with many Americans, unfortunately), all of these things are the same.
I'd like to see TSOs universally decked out in polo shirts, with differing colors for TSO, LTSO, and STSO, with photo IDs prominently displayed on the left breast, and a larger pin-on nameplate on the right with name, rank and an employee ID number that can be used for filing compliments or complaints. AFSDs, FSDs, and other high-level executives could wear suits, but they'd still have to wear the ID prominently on the left breast and the nameplate on the right. People at car rental places have been wearing nameplates on blazers for decades; there is no reason why a high-ranking federal executive with the power to deny your right to unrestricted interstate travel without due process of law couldn't also wear his ID in a clear and consistent manner.
But the current faux police uniform and badge getup is what you get when you appoint a law enforcement professional with little or no security experience to head a security agency instead of a law enforcement agency.
Some people just can't tell the difference between screening, safety, security, screening, law enforcement, criminal investigation, and forced compliance with instructions; to Pistole (as with many Americans, unfortunately), all of these things are the same.
#38
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Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8830/4.5.0.138 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/105)
They will probably let him burn up his annual leave and then revert to a leave-without-pay status. There's another category called "excused absence" or "administrative leave" which are involuntary absences. The admin leave this slug is on can be with or without pay. It's all a function of his management.
They will probably let him burn up his annual leave and then revert to a leave-without-pay status. There's another category called "excused absence" or "administrative leave" which are involuntary absences. The admin leave this slug is on can be with or without pay. It's all a function of his management.
#39
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This shows why the TSA should not issue badges and "police-like" appearing uniforms.
Everybody here knows that you are more likely to die driving to the airport, struck by lightning, etc. than be killed in a terrorist attack. Somebody should come up the statistics that show how much more likely you will be sexually assaulted or have something stolen, etc. by a TSA employee than die in a terrorist attack. That would be fun to put on a t-shirt and wear to the airport.
Everybody here knows that you are more likely to die driving to the airport, struck by lightning, etc. than be killed in a terrorist attack. Somebody should come up the statistics that show how much more likely you will be sexually assaulted or have something stolen, etc. by a TSA employee than die in a terrorist attack. That would be fun to put on a t-shirt and wear to the airport.
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Harold Glenn Rodman, 52, of Manassas... has been charged with aggravated sexual battery, object sexual penetration, forcible sodomy and abduction with intent to defile.
"Harry Rodman of Manassas" has to be the Aptonym of the Year!
#41
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And I'd point out that when I refused to go through the strip-search machine at Dulles last week, it very well could have been Harold the (alleged) rapist in the little room looking at all the naked women. I'm glad I didn't show myself naked to a rapist. I can't comprehend how anyone believes the TSA when they claim taking naked pictures to show to rapists is what makes us safe!
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And I'd point out that when I refused to go through the strip-search machine at Dulles last week, it very well could have been Harold the (alleged) rapist in the little room looking at all the naked women. I'm glad I didn't show myself naked to a rapist. I can't comprehend how anyone believes the TSA when they claim taking naked pictures to show to rapists is what makes us safe!
#43
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also, it should be obvious that Rodman saw the behavior of the pax at the airport (doing whatever they were told by blue shirts) and got the idea it would also work outside the airport.
and it did.
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MALE (uniformed) policemen in all U.S. states are foribidden to wear earrings. And are required to have haircuts of a certain, appropriate length, (no dreadlocks, or long hair for male uniformed cops - undercover is another story).
When you factor in the U.S. military, the requirements for dress, conduct, (no hands in pockets in public, when in uniform), and so on, it's even more ridiculous to look at 99% of TSA agents and take them with any seriousness.
The TSA is a complete joke, all in all.

