BBC-"When does airport security become physical assault?"
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BBC-"When does airport security become physical assault?"
When they say "holiday" they mean school vacation time.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programme...ck/9561167.stm
"With the holiday season underway, intimate security checks at American airports are continuing to upset travellers.
When passengers refuse the full body scanners they may be submitted to what authorities are calling an enhanced pat-down.
Politicians are calling for them to be outlawed but the department of justice has threatened that flights whose passengers are not screened will be cancelled.
Nancy Campbell, a 33-year-old from Brooklyn, compared the experience to being "sexually assaulted"...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programme...ck/9561167.stm
"With the holiday season underway, intimate security checks at American airports are continuing to upset travellers.
When passengers refuse the full body scanners they may be submitted to what authorities are calling an enhanced pat-down.
Politicians are calling for them to be outlawed but the department of justice has threatened that flights whose passengers are not screened will be cancelled.
Nancy Campbell, a 33-year-old from Brooklyn, compared the experience to being "sexually assaulted"...
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Nancy Campbell agrees that enhanced pat-downs could prove counterproductive: "There's encouragement from the government to have our eyes on the ground and help make our country safer but if the government abuses the authority towards its citizens - are we all going to feel like one big team?
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Nancy Campbell agrees that enhanced pat-downs could prove counterproductive
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TSA became counter productive as soon as they became regular fodder as the butt of late night jokes, it's only gotten worse since then with ads, movies, etc all highlighting the stupidity yet not yielding any change. Without congressional interference, and we know there isn't a ball left in DC to do so, the train is increasing in speed with no brakes in sight.
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The president needs to shorten the leash on his law enforcement people. Terror is way behind jobs as a political imperative in 2012. His determination to be seen as "tough" on terrorism is going to raise more ire than the law that requires people buy health insurance. TSA is becoming a millstone around the neck of the administration. The notion of "everything normal but more about jobs" isn't really going to be a winning package.
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Originally Posted by BBC
No one from the TSA was available for interview and instead it sent this statement:
"... Only a small percentage of passengers require pat-downs during the security screening process.
Pat-downs are conducted by same gender officers, and all passengers have the right to request private screening at any time."
"... Only a small percentage of passengers require pat-downs during the security screening process.
Pat-downs are conducted by same gender officers, and all passengers have the right to request private screening at any time."
'Only a small percentage', eh? Just what is that small percentage?
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Do passengers have the right to request screeners to use a clean pair of gloves? I'm not in the habit of having close contact with other peoples' bodies and clothing and see no reason why I should do so via screeners' gloves.
'Only a small percentage', eh? Just what is that small percentage?
'Only a small percentage', eh? Just what is that small percentage?
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Do passengers have the right to request screeners to use a clean pair of gloves? I'm not in the habit of having close contact with other peoples' bodies and clothing and see no reason why I should do so via screeners' gloves.
'Only a small percentage', eh? Just what is that small percentage?
'Only a small percentage', eh? Just what is that small percentage?
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That is so disgusting, I guess I wouldn't put it past them ugh! Then again, that would be mean they'd be putting in each others gloves, I get the idea on occasion they dislike each other almost as much as we dislike them
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Given the typical TSA employee's lack of understanding of basic scientific principles like "contamination" and the eyewitness accounts of TSA employees using the restroom while wearing the same gloves they then used at the checkpoint, I don't know that they'd be doing it because they "dislike" each other so much as simply failing to understand that the box doesn't magically sterilize the gloves if you put them back in.
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The president needs to shorten the leash on his law enforcement people. Terror is way behind jobs as a political imperative in 2012. His determination to be seen as "tough" on terrorism is going to raise more ire than the law that requires people buy health insurance. TSA is becoming a millstone around the neck of the administration. The notion of "everything normal but more about jobs" isn't really going to be a winning package.
I guess it's like Bart once said to Homer (perhaps the reverse): "You know, your half-a$$ed underparenting was a lot better than your half-a$$ed overparenting."


