TSA SPOT program: TSA agents observing behavior and collecting passenger data.
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Apparently racist profiling still has some critics in and around DC. 
The way the financial favors are done is by targeted recruitment of relatives/friends/sex partners of relevant significant political, bureaucratic and military players. Those relatives/friends/partners' career/contract opportunities and their compensation packages seem to somehow or another eventually get adjusted for the favors delivered.
That's why some say it's necessary to follow the money -- not just the money to those in an official decision-making/-influencing position but also the money that goes to the favorite individuals of the decision-making/-influencing person(s).

I wonder if he can be taken aside and assured that TSA's SPOT program really is a resounding success, and they'd love to tell him (and the taxpayers) all about the evildoers they've caught, but that information is ...SSI.
I wonder what Congressman's pockets are lined by the contractor who provides the 'priced just for taxpayers' SPOT training...
I wonder what Congressman's pockets are lined by the contractor who provides the 'priced just for taxpayers' SPOT training...
That's why some say it's necessary to follow the money -- not just the money to those in an official decision-making/-influencing position but also the money that goes to the favorite individuals of the decision-making/-influencing person(s).
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...In 2010, the Government Accountability Office, an investigative arm of Congress, said that the program, which began in 2003, was started without first determining its potential effectiveness....

Does TSA ever conduct a cost-benefit analysis?
Does Congress pay attention to GAO reports?
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Apparently racist profiling still has some critics in and around DC. 
The way the financial favors are done is by targeted recruitment of relatives/friends/sex partners of relevant significant political, bureaucratic and military players. Those relatives/friends/partners' career/contract opportunities and their compensation packages seem to somehow or another eventually get adjusted for the favors delivered.
That's why some say it's necessary to follow the money -- not just the money to those in an official decision-making/-influencing position but also the money that goes to the favorite individuals of the decision-making/-influencing person(s).

The way the financial favors are done is by targeted recruitment of relatives/friends/sex partners of relevant significant political, bureaucratic and military players. Those relatives/friends/partners' career/contract opportunities and their compensation packages seem to somehow or another eventually get adjusted for the favors delivered.
That's why some say it's necessary to follow the money -- not just the money to those in an official decision-making/-influencing position but also the money that goes to the favorite individuals of the decision-making/-influencing person(s).
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While this (SPOT) is not an epiphany to most of us, the question is how much effect will this revelation have.
What is none, Alex.
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Another prime example: dumping the HHMD, that only finds metal and finds it very effectively, quickly, and is fairly cheap and replacing it with the assaulting grope-down, which finds everything, even skin, is very expensive and slow. The HHMD and gropedown can be exchanged with WTMD and nude scanner with the same results.
This comes as no surprise to anybody, outside of the AFS'ers!
This reminds me of the science experiment in science 101. Mix water, salt, wood chips and metal shavings, then develop a method to separate them. I can just imagine the system the TSA would come up with to do this, millions of dollars and the end result would be a jar with all of the above plus some new elements added somehow.
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gsoltso has as part of his signature the following: "What part of "I can't talk about the BDO program" are you not getting?".
I think I better understand the meaning of the statement now. We all know it is extremely hard to talk about something that makes absolutely no sense.
I think I better understand the meaning of the statement now. We all know it is extremely hard to talk about something that makes absolutely no sense.
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gsoltso has as part of his signature the following: "What part of "I can't talk about the BDO program" are you not getting?".
I think I better understand the meaning of the statement now. We all know it is extremely hard to talk about something that makes absolutely no sense.
I think I better understand the meaning of the statement now. We all know it is extremely hard to talk about something that makes absolutely no sense.
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I have seen it work. The problem is that it is not a universally known, tangible process and those that are not educated about it dont understand how it works or why. TSA did gather stats on it in the early years. I dont believe those were ever published. Has it been misused? Probably, just like the police abuse radar for traffic enforcement. And lets not forget to take into account the interviews might not have been answered by those employees that are most versed in PC answers.
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I have seen it work. The problem is that it is not a universally known, tangible process and those that are not educated about it dont understand how it works or why. TSA did gather stats on it in the early years. I dont believe those were ever published. Has it been misused? Probably, just like the police abuse radar for traffic enforcement. And lets not forget to take into account the interviews might not have been answered by those employees that are most versed in PC answers.
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I have seen it work. The problem is that it is not a universally known, tangible process and those that are not educated about it dont understand how it works or why. TSA did gather stats on it in the early years. I dont believe those were ever published. Has it been misused? Probably, just like the police abuse radar for traffic enforcement. And lets not forget to take into account the interviews might not have been answered by those employees that are most versed in PC answers.
I could tell you about it, but, ya know, it's RGSSI.


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A person was able to sell me an elephant repelling rock for my backyard. I was skeptical initially, but sure enough, no elephants.
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I don't know how, but it seems to work.
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So is the TSA the only agency that understands SPOT and believe that it works? It appears that it is, based upon comments from TSA personnel, and nobody else understands it. Incredible for a government agency that was only formed 12 years ago!
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I have seen it work. The problem is that it is not a universally known, tangible process and those that are not educated about it dont understand how it works or why. TSA did gather stats on it in the early years. I dont believe those were ever published. Has it been misused? Probably, just like the police abuse radar for traffic enforcement. And lets not forget to take into account the interviews might not have been answered by those employees that are most versed in PC answers.
It has not 'worked' to detect someone who posed a threat to aviation security - which is what TSA is supposed to be focused on.
eyecue, you know as well as I do that if SPOT had been responsible for detecting a single te**orist threat, we would have heard about it. Neither Nappy nor Pistole could have kept it quiet - nor would they have wanted to. They would have used it as justification for doubling down on the program.

