TSA SPOT program: TSA agents observing behavior and collecting passenger data.
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Just like every other thing they have done, they claim they are exempt from all Federal laws.
And this will continue to be the case until the Federal Court system reigns in the DHS
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I read somewhere that the DHS has claimed that they are exempt from the Privacy Statement law.
Just like every other thing they have done, they claim they are exempt from all Federal laws.
And this will continue to be the case until the Federal Court system reigns in the DHS
Mr. Elliott
Just like every other thing they have done, they claim they are exempt from all Federal laws.
And this will continue to be the case until the Federal Court system reigns in the DHS
Mr. Elliott
They know that there are no consequences for their actions. If someone has the time and money to take DHS/TSA to court, DHS/TSA will fight using the taxpayer's bottomless pocketbook and the complicit DOJ all the way to the Supreme Court. Time is on their side.
TSA/DHS completely ignored summons to testify before Chaffetz and company. Nothing happened.
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They already have all that information. The airline sends it all in for every ticket so Big Brother can check you against the No Fly List. Your full PNR info on every flight you make is already in the government's 25 year computer file. If the airline knows info, assume the TSA already know it. Someone here requested their government file under FOIA and found the TSA knows all.
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PII will only be collected from individuals whose actions exceed specified thresholds delineated in the SPOT Standard Operating Procedures and notice under these circumstances is exempt under the Privacy Act.
No one is getting a Privacy Statement in this instance.

ETA: I didn't see a new PIA in the DHS library for the "enhanced" SPOT program, which doesn't surprise me, I guess.
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TSA takes an untested idea, tries it at one airport, and, after it fails totally like all the experts said it would, says "We need to test it at 50 more airports to see if we can get different results." Only a tax funded outfit can be run this badly and still exist.
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Regarding giving them my social security number....aint gonna happen for the following reason: Nothing in my possession at the airport has my soc sec # on it, and there is nothing requiring me to have it memorized. Hence---I "don't know what my soc sec # is" to any inquiries.
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The procedure is actually the same for general aviation except that there is no automatic physical search (it is limited to those deemed a risk) and airmen are exempt. GA is very different in Israel in that you file a preset flight plan and you follow it exactly-- you can't just fly where you want (subject to airspace restrictions) like you can here.
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That term "college educated" does not mean the screeners have an actual degree. It could just mean college classes or even a single class for all we know. Hey could even be they flunked out but still took college classes. Even with a degree it could be a 2 year degree rather than a bachelors. The term, like everything else TSA, is cleverly written to avoid specific information.
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Regarding giving them my social security number....aint gonna happen for the following reason: Nothing in my possession at the airport has my soc sec # on it, and there is nothing requiring me to have it memorized. Hence---I "don't know what my soc sec # is" to any inquiries.
And as far who is my employer, that is none of their damned business, and I will tell that right to the LEOs and any TSA screeners face, and if they did somehow force me to disclose my employer, I am a self employed one man business working out of my house whose business address is a post office box, so it would not even matter anyway.
I am sure the DHS has access to the governments database and can find my social security number if they want to, but that is done at a higher level than a street level LEO or some blue shirt screener
I have even gone as far as removing my name and address from my luggage tags, I now just have my business card with my business number, which calls forward to my cell phone in the tag.
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This will be interesting -- I'm not the most gracious person when I wake-up at 3 AM to make my early flights out of BOS. I'm already 10/10 for fondling as a result of always refusing porno scanners.
When tired and annoyed I tend to be very curt with my interaction with fools. For instance the security lady in Madrid didn't appreciate when I honestly told her that my luggage hadn't been under my control since I had checked it with Iberia.
When tired and annoyed I tend to be very curt with my interaction with fools. For instance the security lady in Madrid didn't appreciate when I honestly told her that my luggage hadn't been under my control since I had checked it with Iberia.
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