Affection

Most here probably know that L-3 is the manufacturer of one of two models of NoS devices found in airports. Many, including myself 10 minutes ago, may not have known that years ago, Titan Corp., an infamous defense contractor best known for its work in Abu Ghraib, renamed itself and became a part of L-3 communications. Its work in Aby Ghriab "includ[ed] beatings, sexual humiliation, exposure to extreme temperatures and rape. In court papers, the inmates said some prisoners were tortured into unconsciousness and several were murdered."

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-0...ntractors.html

You learn something new every day, eh? Perhaps the more important lesson is to stand up for others rights before those who violate them move on to you.

--Jon

WChou

In the interests of accuracy. L-3 Communications purchased Titan in 2005.

Still hate body scanners regardless of whether they are backscatter or MMW.

Affection

Edited to clarify -- thanks.

--Jon

FlyingUnderTheRadar

Like many defense contractors, L-3 is a mixed bag. While they have some good programs, there are some we would all rather not have, but figure it this way some one is going to make scanners until the administration changes direction. As a friend who works for L-3 said 9-11 has been very good for business.

YCTTSFM

And here I'd so hoped this guy (son of friend of friends, met at a celebration) was simply full of it and blowing smoke. Sad.

Originally Posted by Ciarin
My bad, I got into the habit of saying MRI cause that's what it reminds me of. I suppose it's more like a ct scan than an MRI though.
Where have you had experience with MRI and/or CT? In what way does MRI "remind" you of a baggage scanner?

[QUOTE:YCTTSFM/]Curious about your technical perspective, if any. In a recent discussion about backscatter, a 2-tour Iraq combat vet's response to my objection they were put into use without testing was a wink and "Oh, they've been tested—on Iraqis!" He seemed to believe this was both permissible, and sufficient. Don't know him well enough to guess whether he believes it himself. [/QUOTE]

Mods—cannot find the instruction for quoting across threads: this was #13 in FOIA/EPIC active today. Thanks.

Global_Hi_Flyer

And L3 is coming under pressure from investors to divest some of their holdings.

Savvy Traveler

Would love to be a billionaire and short the $&!# out of their stock.

Or just buy and dismantle them.

nachtnebel

I would not short any defense stock. We are multiplying our combat zones by the week.

ovaldisk

so... if a crime family makes regular donations of 5 milllion USD to the catholic church, they should be considered legit?

Yuengling

that's basically the opposite of how L3 has been built - they've acquired other companies (like Titan).

Global_Hi_Flyer

Yes, but, an "activist investor" (corporate raider) has bought into L3 with a stated intention of trying to get them to break up and divest some stuff to increase shareholder value. This was the same investment group that "coaxed" ITT to break into 3 divisions.