That last quote ("You are also wrong about people not being screened in various places you mention: ...") wasn't me, it was CDTraveler.

I'm in Australia and have never gone through a security screening to go into an office building, restaurant, cinema or supermarket, or to ride a bus or train, here. If CD Traveler has to, that's a sad life. ;)

I will grant you it is rare in Australia, but most of the higher court buildings (main Magistrates, Supreme, High) have bag x-ray and WTMD now.

FWIW, many of the larger offices I've worked in in NYC will scan my bag when I arrive. But it's not like a full TSA-style patdown experience. Bag on belt, maybe a WTMD, pick bag up, move on. Sort of like airport security 15 years ago.

I've been to a lot of museums and attractions in Europe like this too - mostly the larger ones (e.g. the Louvre), but even smaller ones if they have Jewish links.

Debunked:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/08...t_terror_labs/
http://williambowles.info/wmd/tatp.html
http://www.efilmgroup.com/Liquid-Che...d-to-Know.html

Mixing has to be done with extreme precision and the container where you mix has to be chilled. Impossible to do in an airplane bathroom. Things will overheat and burn without exploding. If you do it on the ground, say in an airport bathroom, the liquid will be very unstable and tend to explode before you get onto the airplane. Oh, during the mixing process poisonous fumes get released, which tend to incapacitate the novice chemists before they get very far anyway, or alert passersby.

Here are step-by-step instructions: tell us how a wannabe bomber would do this in an airplane or even at an airport without being noticed... http://www.zoklet.net/totse/en/bad_i...om/162660.html.

In other words, wake up suckers, its a ginned-up movie plot meant to keep the dollars flowing to TSA and thier contractors and to keep the sheeple scared and compliant.

Far easier and more effective to do this, which was not caught via scanner.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idICUSiGcqo

Th:eek:se who don't speak German can use the 'CC' button on the bottom of the display pane to see the English translation of what is being said.

Those who do speak German could as well :D

'One certainly can't win the war on terror with scanners' :D

But really it does need the full effect of the lovable Mr Gruber (Austria's Bill Nye the Science Guy) in his native speech to really round out the effect of the video.

Apologies for not pointing out the button for subtitles; I will try and remember to include that in future when I post the link. :)

I've watched the video before, but I still can't get the last minute or so of the politician talking as it appears that portion was not cc'd. Could anybody provide a quick brief of what he said at the end?

From memory (I have watched it more than a few times)
'I don't find that amusing'

'It doesn't go around 'amusing' - there are any sources of information on the internet which one can find very quickly about how to construct a bomb etc. We have to give up a bottle of water every time we fly, but look how easy it is to do this with things one can freely buy in an apothecary' (Note that in Germany we have 'drug stores' for toothpaste etc and 'apothecaries' for pills, etc unlike in the US where it is all in one store)

'Liquid rules are through the EU; we have planned to lessen them'

'A good way to finish; everyone has to give up a bottle of water but one can freely bring these items and nobody is the wiser'

In effect it is showing how the liquid rules as well as the scanner are a useless sham, and how anyone with a little knowledge and determination can do much more harm, undetected.

Werner Gruber also has a piece entitled 'It's a Good Thing that Terrorists Don't Understand Physics'

That's not to say that four or five terrorists couldn't pass through security carrying their precursors and patiently mix up a viable batch of TATP in some secluded airside spot - and anyway, gaining access to airside doesn't necessarily mean passing through passenger security

Now you did it! :eek:

Right now tewwowists everywhere are punching themselves in the head going "Stupid, stupid, stupid! Why didn't we just go back and forth through the checkpoint until we had enough of our Magic Airborne Bomb Liquid™?"

:p

LOL :)

My apologies, careless cut-and-paste editing while trying to respond to two posts at once. It is fixed now.

Of course knives (which is what they care about mostly in such screenings) actually are a threat to museums. Many an irreplacable painting has been slashed in the past.