@:-) S:rolleyes:urce, please...

Is This Thread A Psych Class Experiment?
 

Is This Thread A Psych Class Experiment? Or a TSA-sponsored test of our reactions? The whole scenario is constructed, in my opinion, to press our buttons. But whoever is tabulating these results should be aware that this forum has thousands of readers who never post and whose opinions on this topic you cannot ascertain. Result of this con? Negligible. Personally, I am not giving this scam the dignity of participating.

LOL !!!!

Jesus. Speak for yourself. I am not a snitch or a rat. I don't rat people out to the authorities to be a good citizen. Instead I mind my own business and treat other people the way I would want to be treated. Do you think that the East German STASI were a good model that we should emulate? Everyone spying on everyone else hoping to find someone somewhere breaking a rule?

The only way I would "snitch" in a situation as described by the op is if I was the pax directly behind the pax in question and I had an "evil liquid, gel or aerosol" take from me as you can put up any amount of hockey pucks that you want that I would point the offending pax out and tell the security screeners to do their job right or don't do it at all as what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Seems to be the TSA model of choice.

For all you sceptics
 

I remember watching a documentary on NatGeo a few years ago.
So, in the 3 seconds it took to google it...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...-airplane.html.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...xplosives.html

An interesting critique - http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/02..._liquid_again/

And a related article in German... http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/0,1518,448217,00.html

You realize that the articles (I only looked at the first two) support the position that under current guidelines (no hiding of liquid bottles), it is possible to do this. Therefore, WHY do you think anyone hiding their shoe polish is a threat? Really?

That plastic baggie that went through the xray or the one in the guys pocket walked through the WTMD got similarly screened - there is no detection/test for each of your liquids (and I really hanging up my flying shoes if that idiocy is implemented) to determine if they MIGHT be an ingredient to creat a bomb. Note that some of the ingredients are things that people may normally carry with them anyway.

What did you hope to accomplish by flagging this guy for the CATSA?

Since you took the link I posted, I included it because it was widely used to show the idiocy of the liquid ban when it first came into place. (Just as the ZDF/Werner Gruber link I often post shows the idiocy of the use of scanners)

I'm curious if you actually read the article in the original German?

Yes! There could have been a full-grown terrorist stuffed inside the bottle. See something, say something... :rolleyes:

1. I was replying to an earlier post which claimed there is no way to create a bomb if the 100ml rule is in effect.

2. I maintain my position that the point here is if you see something suspicious, REPORT IT.

Arguing about whether it's shoe polish, a dead cat or a grenade launcher they guy in front of you is trying to sneak in is irrelevant. It is your common sense that should tell you when to snitch. In my book, it's not a game. If you're trying to hide something, chances are you're a smart-a$% who doesn't agree with the security checks you have to undergo before boarding. Or perhaps there's something more sinister going on.

Either way, if you decide to break the rules, the situation is your doing and the consequences your responsibility.

Or, it Could Be This...
 

You never know these days. Better report him out of an abundance of caution! :D

The government conducted highly controlled lab-based demos to "prove" liquid explosives are possible. No one is disputing that liquid explosives are possible - what we're disputing, with the backing of almost every scientific expert mind in the chemistry business not on government payroll, is the fact that combining and then detonating these chemicals outside of a highly controlled lab environment is essentially impossible.

The liquid bomb plot as discovered by the authorities - totally impossible.

Experts have weighed-in on this for years - and not a single expert who is not on the gov't payroll has agreed with the government's position and further stated that the likelihood of mixing explosive chemicals to bring down an airliner is next to impossible.

Can someone sneak a single explosive substance like nitro-glycerin on board and detonate it? Sure - it's been done before. Can the TSA stop it from happening through the use of x-ray machines and limits on liquids? No - xrays cannot detect chemical substances and even a child can figure out how to bypass the liquid limits and sneak a gallon or more of nitro-glycerin past the checkpoint with nary a glance from the screeners, simply by stuffing their baggie with multiple 3oz bottles and having a group of accomplices do the same thing.

Why bother with the risk of liquids? I can get a slab of Semtex past the checkpoint right now without raising an eyebrow.

So... you saw a fellow citizen doing his best to thwart organized domestic terrorists - and you ratted him out to the terrorists? What about your worthless life makes you think you shouldn't be convicted of TREASON?

+1

But it's on an airplane! <Runs around in circles waving arms hysterically>

Sounds like great similarities, rather than differences, to many places in many office buildings. Confined space, nowhere to run, no escape, and no help available - rather like the lift, or the restroom, or the office I work in itself after hours. My scope for running away (or getting help) would be much greater on almost any airplane than in my personal office.

Not unlike the assumptions that there is somewhere to run and there is help available in an office building.

Don't know where you are. Hardly any of them do here.