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Originally Posted by mad1
(Post 16117300)
46 replies in the space of 2 flights? wow. ok so it seems like it's about 10 to 1 in favor of passing judgement on me being a d0uchebag rather than a genuinely concerned traveler.
Originally Posted by mad1
(Post 16117300)
1. I was concerned, not out of a terror of having my shoes shined surreptitiously, but because of the way he went about hiding the item - first putting it in his front pocket, then thinking, and switching it to his back pocket.
Originally Posted by mad1
(Post 16117300)
Basically it's this - I'm a liberty-loving, Nudeoscope-optout-ing, common sense kind of person. But, to me, an airport is a bad bad place to be seen trying to conceal something - anything. And it's the concealment that's what made me speak up.
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You know it was wrong. I haven't read all the responses, but there's a time and place to use your common sense. A bottle of shoeshine never was and never will be a threat to security. I report it when I see a threat. I don't snitch on somebody who just wants to be able to brush his teeth and/or shine his shoes when he gets to his destination. Our fellow passengers look rough enough these days. I think it's great that a stubborn few still brush their teeth and shine their shoes. Everybody doesn't have to get where they're going looking like a pig!
What was your motive for snitching? There is no evidence that any of the various liquid plots down through the years could have resulted in a danger to the aircraft. So there is not a safety issue. If the guy was drunk and it was a pint of booze, if it was his granddaddy's pocket knife and there was at least some small chance it could be used as a weapon...anything. But this is on the level of the guys who reported the Muslim imans for praying. Shoeshine is OK. Prayer is OK. Even if the TSA doesn't agree, we are allowed to use some common sense and kindness toward our fellow suffering passengers. I read that the TSA will eventually have a device that will allow them to tell the difference between shampoo and a bomb. But I already have that device. It's called eyes. Unfortunately, this device has to be used with a dash of common sense... Sounds like the staff on line that day actually used their common sense and the bottle of shoeshine was OK. |
You did the right thing. The reason for the liquid limit ban is that liquids can carry explosives in suspense and that the screening technology deployed does not yet detect the dangerous stuff. You don't know what was in the bottle. The others on this board who sneak liquids through are taking a risk, but, becs they know what they are sneaking, it's not, in fact, dangerous.
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Originally Posted by Often1
(Post 16170321)
You did the right thing. The reason for the liquid limit ban is that liquids can carry explosives in suspense and that the screening technology deployed does not yet detect the dangerous stuff. You don't know what was in the bottle. The others on this board who sneak liquids through are taking a risk, but, becs they know what they are sneaking, it's not, in fact, dangerous.
I am on pins and needles waiting to know "Is it explosive or Not?" When will we know? That assertion is almost as laughable as if it came from the TSA. PS: I have OCD so don't make me wait too long!! |
No. Explosives can't be carried in liquid suspension in sufficient quantities to build a bomb on board. Plus you need a lab and time to get the explosive chemical back out of liquid suspension. We've already established this time and again. The various attempts at liquid bomb plots were miserable, silly, embarrassing failures. It won't work. Now if the guy was bringing an entire chemistry set onboard. Fine. Report away.
Originally Posted by Often1
(Post 16170321)
You did the right thing. The reason for the liquid limit ban is that liquids can carry explosives in suspense and that the screening technology deployed does not yet detect the dangerous stuff. You don't know what was in the bottle. The others on this board who sneak liquids through are taking a risk, but, becs they know what they are sneaking, it's not, in fact, dangerous.
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Originally Posted by Often1
(Post 16170321)
You did the right thing. The reason for the liquid limit ban is that liquids can carry explosives in suspense and that the screening technology deployed does not yet detect the dangerous stuff. You don't know what was in the bottle. The others on this board who sneak liquids through are taking a risk, but, becs they know what they are sneaking, it's not, in fact, dangerous.
Oh, and you might want to throw out that extra kool-aid you have lying around, too :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by Often1
(Post 16170321)
You did the right thing. The reason for the liquid limit ban is that liquids can carry explosives in suspense and that the screening technology deployed does not yet detect the dangerous stuff. You don't know what was in the bottle. The others on this board who sneak liquids through are taking a risk, but, becs they know what they are sneaking, it's not, in fact, dangerous.
I know it is easy to cave under the pressure of the fear instilled in you by the TSA its partners in crime, but you did the wrong thing, here. I'm not condemning you for it, but next time (and this applies to all of us), please just let it go. |
Originally Posted by Often1
(Post 16170321)
You did the right thing. The reason for the liquid limit ban is that liquids can carry explosives in suspense and that the screening technology deployed does not yet detect the dangerous stuff. You don't know what was in the bottle. The others on this board who sneak liquids through are taking a risk, but, becs they know what they are sneaking, it's not, in fact, dangerous.
We are waiting on pins and needles for that study! |
I think there are some really interesting things about the original post and the responses
The poster clearly thought and believed the concealed item was shoe shine stuff. You can argue that it could have been anything and you can argue about the possibility of danger (to the metal or to people) in that bottle but the issue for the person posting was that something was being concealed - not the nature of the item that was being concealed. There are similar posts about reporting unattended luggage and other things like that. This is precisely why they call it terrorism - because people become so terrified they find it hard to make reasoned, logical outcome-based decisions. I kind of understand it, but I wish we could all take a deep breath and think the sequence through before acting. |
There is no TSA in Canada, not sure if they even have liquid restrictions to Europe.
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Originally Posted by mad1
(Post 16111429)
What do you guys think? Was this the right thing to do?
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