First someone said why female in the title. I posted this originally to see if anyone had more info on this as I was hoping to forward it to politicals and media. (People here knew Rep Cissna, I thought maybe someone knew him.) Second, info was second hand not third. The State Rep said it happened to someone staying at his house ( he used the word houseguest). (An AP story which mentioned this in an interview with another state rep., the rep said it happened to someone living with someone he knew). The State Rep was one of the sponsors of the bill ( watched this while at a gym so didn't write down names) and while he didn't mention TSA specifically that is what the interview was about, plus he's after the TSA not Customs. He mentioned this while giving a list of reasons he felt the TSA needs to be reined in. He specifically said she got a cavity search with fingers inside of her. He did not say if done by male or female. He also stated (and seemed as concerned about this as about the actual search) that she was not told why this was done to her. She was told to go into a back room where they did this. He gave intelligent answers to the questions he was asked , said he felt scanners and pat downs were ok but only as secondary if needed to resolve issues, and pax must be given legit reasons why. In summary State Rep. who I doubt would lie about this, says it happened to a woman staying in his house ( friend, girlfriend, nanny, housekeeper, relative?) From bits and pieces from the AP story and elsewhere, it seems to have happened about two months ago. He also mentioned the woman was a NH resident. Idiot doing the interview ignored this and went on to other questions. Would any of the TSA people here care to comment?

That woman should testify before the congressional committee. And the head of TSA should be there to try to explain it. Then someone should ask about remedial training, and there should be followup. In short, Congress should do its oversight job.

Yes, I am aware of that. I was referring to the case of the Canadian woman suing US border patrol for strip searching her. I shouldn't have said the original case mentioned here. My error. For some reason, I thought it was mentioned here as well. I was reading both threads around the same time and must have mixed the two. But my comments stand. Everything this CBSA "officer" get, he deserves. I'm horribly embarrassed when I hear something like this happening here and glad he's been caught and thrown in prison.

Our CBSA has similarly strict rules. Strip searches, not even cavity searches. must be conducted only when there is probably cause, must be approved by a supervising officer, must be performed only when two officers of the same sex are available and those officers are not allowed to touch the person being "observed" while the person is in a state of undress.

For LuvAirFrance, here's the post to which I was referring http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trave...or-bridge.html

Good for that Canadian woman. At least Canadians aren't so eager to have America "strip" them of their dignity.

One step removed from cavity search
 

If crossing threads isn't alllowed, I apologize, but this was posted under AK Cissna Crafting Bill To Curb Abuse by Onlyairfare:


"On at least one occasion in PHX, I was wearing a loose skirt, and the TSO who felt me up insisted that she could not perform the groping outside my skirt, and had to put her hands on the inside thigh of my bare legs. She did this forcefully enough that had I not been wearing panties, her fingers would likely have "penetrated."

Supposedly, if a woman is wearing a loose skirt (which I was), the TSO is to do the groping on the outside of one's clothing. I have thought of "going commando" just to "surprise" them, but then decided that given the caliber of many of the perverts employed, it is better to wear underwear.

This same woman also inserted her gloved hands well inside my skirt/panties waistband, definitely was going for direct palpation of skin/hair/butt crack, not through cloth. Really disgusting. "
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And if you had worn a tight skirt, they'd have wanted you to take it off.

When told to reove a tight skirt they are supposed to give pax a paper gown or something else to wear. I think that is what should have been done here.

In any case it's not a very big leap from what Onlyairfare had happen to her to fingers actually in body cavities. The T&A needs to be curbed.

Nothing should have happened here. Such a search should not have taken place at all.

Agree, but the word I would use is "suppressed".

Cutting all fingers off of screeners would better serve the public.

I would have said "The TSA needs to be curb-stomped."

^. For 'security reasons' and it's OK to do almost anything in an airport.

Whoa! I hope that doesn't mean the same thing in your 'hood as it does in mine.

"Amtrak Police Chief John O’Connor said the TSA VIPR teams have no right to do more than what Amtrak police do occasionally, which has produced few if any protests and which O’Connor said is clearly within the law and the Constitution." from a story titled "TRAINS exclusive: Amtrak police chief bars Transportation Security Administration from some security operations" on another thread.

Legally, I would think the TSA Gestapo should not be doing anymore than a police officer could do on an administrative search, unless there was a reason to go farther. And that is what the NH State Reps said. No touching, no porno scans unless there is a good reason and then pax must be told the reason.

I only know one meaning for the term.