Jesse "The Body" Ventura sues DHS, TSA
Jul 26, 2011, 5:27 pm
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There is nothing in that article stating the Federal District Court is retaining jurisdiction over the matter and not taking the position of the TSA that it should be in the appeals court. This appears to have just been the argument over that matter with no decision yet by the court.
Nov 3, 2011, 9:09 pm
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Nov 3, 2011, 9:42 pm
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My memory is fuzzy, but it seems a lot of these cases are thrown out on these grounds. Is this another case of someone believing the case should have started in an appeals court? If some place other than the federal district court was the right place to start, then why do the attorneys for these plaintiffs keep filing elsewhere? IANAL (definitely), but the whole think smacks of courts looking for any and every excuse to avoid ruling on TSA matters.
IMO it seems a court doesn't want to risk the embarrassment of giving a "soft on security" ruling that lets a terrorist get buy, but also doesn't want to go down in history as the court that destroyed civil liberties in the USA. So like much of the rest of government, they punt.
Nov 4, 2011, 5:24 pm
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“They said they don’t have jurisdiction,” Ventura told reporters. “Well my question is if the federal courts don’t have jurisdiction over a constitutional question then who the hell does?”
A further detail that Ventura revealed on the Alex Jones Show which has not been picked up by mainstream media reports is the fact that Ventura’s lawyer was told he could not even look at the ruling due to “national security” concerns.
Speaking to the Alex Jones Show today, Ventura spoke of his fury about how an American citizen was not even allowed to go to court to defend the Bill of Rights, adding that from now on he would refer to the U.S. as the “Fascist States of America” and would refuse to stand for the national anthem.
A further detail that Ventura revealed on the Alex Jones Show which has not been picked up by mainstream media reports is the fact that Ventura’s lawyer was told he could not even look at the ruling due to “national security” concerns.
Speaking to the Alex Jones Show today, Ventura spoke of his fury about how an American citizen was not even allowed to go to court to defend the Bill of Rights, adding that from now on he would refer to the U.S. as the “Fascist States of America” and would refuse to stand for the national anthem.
Referring to 9/11, Ventura questioned the reasoning behind the whole war on terror. “George Bush said we were attacked because they were jealous of our freedoms. So we take away our freedoms so they won’t be jealous anymore?” he said. “I think they’re winning.”
Sounds like a giant crock of steaming crap to me. Wouldn't even release their ruling for the plaintiff due to "national security" concerns? If true, this is PURE totalitarianism. We cannot even use the courts to petition the government for a redress of grievances because we don't have standing and they don't have jurisdiction.
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Nov 5, 2011, 5:25 pm
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Nov 5, 2011, 7:44 pm
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When your attorney is not even allowed to view the ruling, you know this country is *&%#&%!
And Ventura is right....if a federal court says it doesn't have jurisdiction to rule on a constitutional question, then we are doubly (*&$**$&%!
Fascist States of America sounds about right.
And Ventura is right....if a federal court says it doesn't have jurisdiction to rule on a constitutional question, then we are doubly (*&$**$&%!
Fascist States of America sounds about right.
Nov 6, 2011, 6:13 am
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Sounds like a giant crock of steaming crap to me. Wouldn't even release their ruling for the plaintiff due to "national security" concerns? If true, this is PURE totalitarianism. We cannot even use the courts to petition the government for a redress of grievances because we don't have standing and they don't have jurisdiction.
Nov 6, 2011, 6:32 am
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Nov 6, 2011, 7:40 am
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Nov 6, 2011, 8:16 am
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He considers the point of his service to avoid just this type of behavior from our government. Obviously considered it a wasted effort, thanks to the TSA gropers.
Nov 6, 2011, 9:37 am
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Does anyone else find it disturbing that when someone advocates for liberty in the political arena they are dismissed as crazy kooks? The only politicians that get any traction are the ones advocating for more, bigger government that interfere in our lives evermore.
The two that come to mind are Ron Paul and Ventura, both of which have been elected to public office, but are labeled as 'unelectable'.
The two that come to mind are Ron Paul and Ventura, both of which have been elected to public office, but are labeled as 'unelectable'.
Nov 7, 2011, 12:51 am
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I'd say when people are labeled "anarchists" despite wishing less freedom for bankers, then maybe it would be intelligent to question the label. I'm sure they oppose the massive corporations that get bailouts, but how is that "anarchist"? Do people even know what the history of anarchism is? Kropotkin wanted workers to rule the companies where they worked.