Upgrading from Y to J on BA or AA?
Jul 5, 2004 | 4:52 am
#1
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Upgrading from Y to J on BA or AA?
I used to be able to upgrade from Y to J on BA & AA from LHR to anywhere in USA, even after the introduction of the 'Premium Eco' service.
But now on a recent check with the MCO, they informed me that I cannot upgrade from Y to J on any 4 class service anymore, and they also told me that both AA & BA both operate 4 class services between LHR to anywhere in the USA.
They informed me that I can now only upgrade up 'one class' of service (IE from Y to T, or from T to J, or U to F
Although the milleage requirement is only 1/2 from Y to T, or from T yo J.
The reason this is important, is that I am flying RTW, and upgrading as a Round Trip portions of my Journey from Eco to Bus.
My upgrade itininery flys HKG to LAX, openjaw to NYC (I will continue flying on my RTW ticket domesticly flying eco).
Flying next JFK to LHR, stopping there & flying LHR to HKG. Before any of you point anything out, you should know this is technically considered as a 'Round Trip' as I am starting, and ending in the same place, and have 1 open jaw and 2 stops involving CX + 1 more 1world partner airline, therefore putting me in an allowable itininery.
The cost is only 70000 miles Y to J upgrade. (Therefore only extra 10000 miles extra from a standard roundtrip, and I get a cheap oneway upgrade transatlantic). I checked this also with the MCO, and they confirmed it is OK. Normally a oneway upgrade award is NOT allowed on a partner airline. But because this is part of a Round Trip award involved CX, it is allowable being part of a CX itininary.
But this new rule of no upgrading directly from Y to J on BA & AA is throwing my planned route off. My soltuion now so far is to book from JFK to LHR via Dublin on AerLingus (it operates only a 2 class service Y & J), and even with the additional transit I am still OK as I am allowed up to 2 transits on the roundtrip,
But I would rather fly BA or AA directly if possible. Does anybody know whether these new rules are right, or is MCO making an error somewhere (whicich is rare). I know that BA definetely has a 4 class service, but I've never heard of AA having a 4 class service, only 3 classes, but MCO was adamant that AA has a 4 class service also on these routes.
But now on a recent check with the MCO, they informed me that I cannot upgrade from Y to J on any 4 class service anymore, and they also told me that both AA & BA both operate 4 class services between LHR to anywhere in the USA.
They informed me that I can now only upgrade up 'one class' of service (IE from Y to T, or from T to J, or U to F
Although the milleage requirement is only 1/2 from Y to T, or from T yo J.
The reason this is important, is that I am flying RTW, and upgrading as a Round Trip portions of my Journey from Eco to Bus.
My upgrade itininery flys HKG to LAX, openjaw to NYC (I will continue flying on my RTW ticket domesticly flying eco).
Flying next JFK to LHR, stopping there & flying LHR to HKG. Before any of you point anything out, you should know this is technically considered as a 'Round Trip' as I am starting, and ending in the same place, and have 1 open jaw and 2 stops involving CX + 1 more 1world partner airline, therefore putting me in an allowable itininery.
The cost is only 70000 miles Y to J upgrade. (Therefore only extra 10000 miles extra from a standard roundtrip, and I get a cheap oneway upgrade transatlantic). I checked this also with the MCO, and they confirmed it is OK. Normally a oneway upgrade award is NOT allowed on a partner airline. But because this is part of a Round Trip award involved CX, it is allowable being part of a CX itininary.
But this new rule of no upgrading directly from Y to J on BA & AA is throwing my planned route off. My soltuion now so far is to book from JFK to LHR via Dublin on AerLingus (it operates only a 2 class service Y & J), and even with the additional transit I am still OK as I am allowed up to 2 transits on the roundtrip,
But I would rather fly BA or AA directly if possible. Does anybody know whether these new rules are right, or is MCO making an error somewhere (whicich is rare). I know that BA definetely has a 4 class service, but I've never heard of AA having a 4 class service, only 3 classes, but MCO was adamant that AA has a 4 class service also on these routes.
Jul 5, 2004 | 7:08 pm
#2
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Join Date: May 1998
Location: Portland OR Double Emerald (QF and AA), DL PM/MM, Starwood Plat
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AA does not have 4 class, it is only 3 class to LHR and 2 class to other cities in Europe. If they refuse to accept that AA is 3 class to LHR, try routing via ZRH, FRA, MAD, etc. which will get you 2 class AA service and that must show up correctly in the system.
Jul 5, 2004 | 7:08 pm
#3
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Portland OR Double Emerald (QF and AA), DL PM/MM, Starwood Plat
Posts: 19,593
AA does not have 4 class, it is only 3 class to LHR and 2 class to other cities in Europe. If they refuse to accept that AA is 3 class to LHR, try routing via ZRH, FRA, MAD, etc. which will get you 2 class AA service and that must show up correctly in the system.