CX Upgrade Awards
#1
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: MNL
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CX Upgrade Awards
I'm looking to purchase an Economy class flight LHR to HKG on Cathay Pacific and use Asia Miles to upgrade to Business class. Looking at the award charts it says it would cost 22,500 miles to upgrade to Premium Economy and 43,000 to upgrade to Business.
But at the bottom of the chart it says: "*An upgrade from Economy to Business Class is only applicable for flights without Premium Economy Class."
I know I've previously done CX upgrade awards from Economy to Business, but it seems this will now be impossible as all flights on that route offer Premium Economy.
Could someone confirm that my reading of this restriction is correct and that I won't? Would I be able to upgrade from Economy to Premium Economy and then again from Premium Economy to Business for the same flight? Even if allowed, that sounds a risky proposition as it relies on awards for two classes being available on the same fight.
But at the bottom of the chart it says: "*An upgrade from Economy to Business Class is only applicable for flights without Premium Economy Class."
I know I've previously done CX upgrade awards from Economy to Business, but it seems this will now be impossible as all flights on that route offer Premium Economy.
Could someone confirm that my reading of this restriction is correct and that I won't? Would I be able to upgrade from Economy to Premium Economy and then again from Premium Economy to Business for the same flight? Even if allowed, that sounds a risky proposition as it relies on awards for two classes being available on the same fight.
#2
Join Date: Oct 2023
Location: SFO
Posts: 22
I'm looking to purchase an Economy class flight LHR to HKG on Cathay Pacific and use Asia Miles to upgrade to Business class. Looking at the award charts it says it would cost 22,500 miles to upgrade to Premium Economy and 43,000 to upgrade to Business.
But at the bottom of the chart it says: "*An upgrade from Economy to Business Class is only applicable for flights without Premium Economy Class."
I know I've previously done CX upgrade awards from Economy to Business, but it seems this will now be impossible as all flights on that route offer Premium Economy.
Could someone confirm that my reading of this restriction is correct and that I won't? Would I be able to upgrade from Economy to Premium Economy and then again from Premium Economy to Business for the same flight? Even if allowed, that sounds a risky proposition as it relies on awards for two classes being available on the same fight.
But at the bottom of the chart it says: "*An upgrade from Economy to Business Class is only applicable for flights without Premium Economy Class."
I know I've previously done CX upgrade awards from Economy to Business, but it seems this will now be impossible as all flights on that route offer Premium Economy.
Could someone confirm that my reading of this restriction is correct and that I won't? Would I be able to upgrade from Economy to Premium Economy and then again from Premium Economy to Business for the same flight? Even if allowed, that sounds a risky proposition as it relies on awards for two classes being available on the same fight.
#3




Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: PEK, AUS, WAS, HKG
Programs: CX Gold
Posts: 1,288
I'm looking to purchase an Economy class flight LHR to HKG on Cathay Pacific and use Asia Miles to upgrade to Business class. Looking at the award charts it says it would cost 22,500 miles to upgrade to Premium Economy and 43,000 to upgrade to Business.
But at the bottom of the chart it says: "*An upgrade from Economy to Business Class is only applicable for flights without Premium Economy Class."
I know I've previously done CX upgrade awards from Economy to Business, but it seems this will now be impossible as all flights on that route offer Premium Economy.
Could someone confirm that my reading of this restriction is correct and that I won't? Would I be able to upgrade from Economy to Premium Economy and then again from Premium Economy to Business for the same flight? Even if allowed, that sounds a risky proposition as it relies on awards for two classes being available on the same fight.
But at the bottom of the chart it says: "*An upgrade from Economy to Business Class is only applicable for flights without Premium Economy Class."
I know I've previously done CX upgrade awards from Economy to Business, but it seems this will now be impossible as all flights on that route offer Premium Economy.
Could someone confirm that my reading of this restriction is correct and that I won't? Would I be able to upgrade from Economy to Premium Economy and then again from Premium Economy to Business for the same flight? Even if allowed, that sounds a risky proposition as it relies on awards for two classes being available on the same fight.
#4




Join Date: Mar 2024
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1) only one upgrade allowed per sector, only to the next highest available class
note: if you can upgrade from Y to J (initial aircraft has no PY), then an EOQ happens to an aircraft with PY, congrats you've struck gold!
2) no double upgrades allowed whatsoever for any sector, even if you have an airport upgrade coupon
3) no upgrades allowed for any sector(s) redeemed via Asia Miles (cash+points flights can be upgraded via Miles, but rarely would a sane person use cash+points)
4) upgrading via Asia Miles is subject to the same availability as if you were redeeming an award outright
I.e. if you can't redeem a certain class for a certain flight, then you can't upgrade to it either
(Edit: this point has been contested by another long-time FT user)
5) eligibility for upgrading is dependent on your initial fare class
Hope this clarifies things!
note: if you can upgrade from Y to J (initial aircraft has no PY), then an EOQ happens to an aircraft with PY, congrats you've struck gold!
2) no double upgrades allowed whatsoever for any sector, even if you have an airport upgrade coupon
3) no upgrades allowed for any sector(s) redeemed via Asia Miles (cash+points flights can be upgraded via Miles, but rarely would a sane person use cash+points)
4) upgrading via Asia Miles is subject to the same availability as if you were redeeming an award outright
I.e. if you can't redeem a certain class for a certain flight, then you can't upgrade to it either
(Edit: this point has been contested by another long-time FT user)
5) eligibility for upgrading is dependent on your initial fare class
Hope this clarifies things!
Last edited by pf007; Aug 24, 2024 at 9:08 am
#5
Ambassador, Hong Kong and Macau




Join Date: May 2009
Location: HKG
Programs: Non-top tier Asia Miles member
Posts: 22,125
Previous understanding (mine):
- upgrade inventory > redemption inventory
- not every redemption inventory is available for upgrade
#6




Join Date: Mar 2024
Programs: Agoda VIP DM; Booking Genius L3; Trip Plt; ... (smirk!) // ALL Accor GO; Ascott ASR SL
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percysmith If you've got reservations over that point I'd take your word for it!
Of course the airline(s) won't stipulate inventory in their T&Cs, so it was a personal observation:
- I've never been able ot upgrade when there wasn't inventory
- After upgrading, their inventory number reduces correspondingly
- I've had a waitlist upgrade (using miles) clear several weeks before a flight, without any inventory being made public - I'd guessed that they created one unit of inventory, but used that to clear my upgrade?
- CX redemption / upgrade inventory varies depending on membership tier
Of course the airline(s) won't stipulate inventory in their T&Cs, so it was a personal observation:
- I've never been able ot upgrade when there wasn't inventory
- After upgrading, their inventory number reduces correspondingly
- I've had a waitlist upgrade (using miles) clear several weeks before a flight, without any inventory being made public - I'd guessed that they created one unit of inventory, but used that to clear my upgrade?
- CX redemption / upgrade inventory varies depending on membership tier
#8

Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 805
Sorry to dig up this old thread! I was just wondering, is there any way to check if there will be upgrade seats award available in advance before booking? A bit like BA where they will show the available dates before booking. Prefer not to book to only find that it isn't available
#9
Moderator: Cathay Pacific




Join Date: Jan 2024
Programs: CX DM-
Posts: 1,302
Sorry to dig up this old thread! I was just wondering, is there any way to check if there will be upgrade seats award available in advance before booking? A bit like BA where they will show the available dates before booking. Prefer not to book to only find that it isn't available 

#10




Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: San Francisco & London
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Posts: 2,065
CX Award Reservation
Can a CX direct award reservation be upgraded using cash or bid to upgrade from coach to business (no PE) if so how can I do this?
Last edited by navatwal; May 24, 2025 at 8:57 pm

