HND-HKG J (& to Macau), JL vs CX?
Mar 26, 2024, 9:53 pm
#16
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Hong Kong to Japan is what I'd called a pseudo redeye not a proper redeye.
You leave very late, arrive early and lose an hour en route due to the time difference. Factor in the noise of announcements etc. before takeoff and landing and you'd be very lucky to get more than three and a half hours of kip. So if sleep is important, I'd avoid the overnight flights on this route..
You leave very late, arrive early and lose an hour en route due to the time difference. Factor in the noise of announcements etc. before takeoff and landing and you'd be very lucky to get more than three and a half hours of kip. So if sleep is important, I'd avoid the overnight flights on this route..
Mar 27, 2024, 3:31 pm
#17
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Hong Kong to Japan is what I'd called a pseudo redeye not a proper redeye.
You leave very late, arrive early and lose an hour en route due to the time difference. Factor in the noise of announcements etc. before takeoff and landing and you'd be very lucky to get more than three and a half hours of kip. So if sleep is important, I'd avoid the overnight flights on this route..
You leave very late, arrive early and lose an hour en route due to the time difference. Factor in the noise of announcements etc. before takeoff and landing and you'd be very lucky to get more than three and a half hours of kip. So if sleep is important, I'd avoid the overnight flights on this route..
If you don't think that's a proper redeye, then what is a proper redeye in your opinion?
Mar 27, 2024, 3:37 pm
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Mar 28, 2024, 6:46 pm
#20
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red-eye_flight.
In this case, 3.5 hour is egregiously bad.
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us...nglish/red-eye
Iin this case, still qualifies as a (bad) redeye flight.
Still haven't decided what to do for the 2 passengers
In commercial aviation, a red-eye flight refers to a flight that departs at night and arrives the next morning, especially when the total flight time is insufficient for passengers to get a full night's sleep
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us...nglish/red-eye
A red-eye or a red-eye flight is a plane trip during the night
designating a late-night or all-night commercial airline flight
a commercial airline flight between two distant points that departs late at night and arrives early in the morning
designating a late-night or all-night commercial airline flight
a commercial airline flight between two distant points that departs late at night and arrives early in the morning
Still haven't decided what to do for the 2 passengers
Last edited by paperwastage; Mar 28, 2024 at 7:12 pm
Mar 29, 2024, 5:59 am
#21
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: HKG/HND/OOL
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having done both i would say i go with CX
IFE - cx wins
seat - CX wins (cirrus not 777 regional)
lounge - CX wins
Food - Jal is moonlight ahead, but i think the reality is CX is 3 generation behind competition
also Jal has way too many courteous Japanese style PA greeting for every bumps or minor items. they interrrupt IFE too much
i also didnt get any OwE greeting nor water bottle or any other "recognition"
IFE - cx wins
seat - CX wins (cirrus not 777 regional)
lounge - CX wins
Food - Jal is moonlight ahead, but i think the reality is CX is 3 generation behind competition
also Jal has way too many courteous Japanese style PA greeting for every bumps or minor items. they interrrupt IFE too much
i also didnt get any OwE greeting nor water bottle or any other "recognition"
Mar 29, 2024, 6:22 am
#22
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JL food is way better than CX. Service is "different" between both airlines. Seat and IFE, CX is ahead (way ahead on the IFE). And lastly, JL planes tend to get better gate assignments in Japanese airports, and CX planes get better gate assignments in HKG. Depends what kind of slick entry process you possess, arriving in HND/NRT/KIX behind a 787 from Manila or Kazakhstan full of "entertainers" can set you back a couple of hours at immigration.
Mar 29, 2024, 6:53 am
#23
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having done both i would say i go with CX
IFE - cx wins
seat - CX wins (cirrus not 777 regional)
lounge - CX wins
Food - Jal is moonlight ahead, but i think the reality is CX is 3 generation behind competition
also Jal has way too many courteous Japanese style PA greeting for every bumps or minor items. they interrrupt IFE too much
i also didnt get any OwE greeting nor water bottle or any other "recognition"
IFE - cx wins
seat - CX wins (cirrus not 777 regional)
lounge - CX wins
Food - Jal is moonlight ahead, but i think the reality is CX is 3 generation behind competition
also Jal has way too many courteous Japanese style PA greeting for every bumps or minor items. they interrrupt IFE too much
i also didnt get any OwE greeting nor water bottle or any other "recognition"
Completely subjective btw.
Mar 29, 2024, 6:56 am
#24
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Mar 29, 2024, 6:58 am
#25
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Ah yes right. Forgot we were comparing with CX, and forgot this was a short haul meal. This is definitely better presented. my bad.
Mar 29, 2024, 7:43 am
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Hi,
I will be doing the red-eye ( HKG-KIX ) in just over a fortnight in J
0150 leaving HKG, arriving KIX 0630 ( then going to Kyoto) having arrived from LHR at 1750
Depending on the weather I will probably go landside in HKG, take the airport express to Kowloon , ride the star ferry and see the lights at the harbour then back to HKG, shower at one of the CX lounges, have a late dinner then try to sleep right after take off
Regards
TBS
I will be doing the red-eye ( HKG-KIX ) in just over a fortnight in J
0150 leaving HKG, arriving KIX 0630 ( then going to Kyoto) having arrived from LHR at 1750
Depending on the weather I will probably go landside in HKG, take the airport express to Kowloon , ride the star ferry and see the lights at the harbour then back to HKG, shower at one of the CX lounges, have a late dinner then try to sleep right after take off
Regards
TBS
Apr 23, 2024, 10:00 pm
#28
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having done both i would say i go with CX
IFE - cx wins
seat - CX wins (cirrus not 777 regional)
lounge - CX wins
Food - Jal is moonlight ahead, but i think the reality is CX is 3 generation behind competition
also Jal has way too many courteous Japanese style PA greeting for every bumps or minor items. they interrrupt IFE too much
i also didnt get any OwE greeting nor water bottle or any other "recognition"
IFE - cx wins
seat - CX wins (cirrus not 777 regional)
lounge - CX wins
Food - Jal is moonlight ahead, but i think the reality is CX is 3 generation behind competition
also Jal has way too many courteous Japanese style PA greeting for every bumps or minor items. they interrrupt IFE too much
i also didnt get any OwE greeting nor water bottle or any other "recognition"
so much better than the recent CX lunch and breakfast i had recently